Just for fun... I dug out an old Celeron 366 laptop with 128 Mb Ram.
I tried to load u-light on it... I couldn't even get mini-ubuntu to load the CLI. However, Vector Linux seems to be installing fine on it. If we want to support hardware this old(low tech) we will need to run a frame buffer. FYI Glen On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Liam Proven<[email protected]> wrote: > 2009/7/23 David Robert Lewis <[email protected]>: >> Dear Liam, >> >> Just a note to voice my concern 192mb is really the Xubuntu spec > > Absolutely. > >> and the >> LXDE project is not providing anything new. > > Do you mean LXDE or Lubuntu? > >> I am right now busy wringing my >> hands, with a pain in my head, wondering why there is absolutely nothing I >> can do for poor neighbourhoods and the Windows 95 and 98 crowd. > > I agree. > >> Believe it >> or not, I would be installing Lubuntu now, if it were available. U-lite is >> all good and well, but it is more Windows 2000 territory. > > Interesting. You feel that U-lite is aiming at too high a spec? > >> A major problem is there is not enough RAM in the country, and we are pretty >> developed compared to the rest of Africa. I had a machine the other day >> running 1.8Ghz but with only 128mb Ram. What can one do, but continue to >> install Windows 98? > > Indeed so. You don't specify where "the country" is, or who "we" are, though. > >> Lubuntu should aspire to being the backbone for the Ubuntu Gandhi Remix >> Edition, see thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1210681 > > Um. To be honest, I took that to be a joke post. > >> it >> should create an attractive desktop that revolutionises computing by making >> low-ram computing possible. Doesn't matter what speed the processor is, RAM >> is everything when it comes to installing. And in a world with virtually no >> net access, please do not expect the seed method to work. I have yet to see >> it work without premium bandwidth. >> >> So barebones LXDE please. >> >> --David. >> >> PS I lived on 8mb of ram on an 80mb hardrive for nearly five years, It was >> an apple, and it gave me great pleasure, why can't ubuntu do the same thing? > > Well, quite. > >> -- >> 888 8 8 8 8d8b. .d88 8 .d8b. Yb dP 8 8 8 8P >> Y8 8 8 8 8' .8 YbdP 8b d8 888 8 8 `Y88 8 `Y8P' YP `Y8P8 > > Pardon? > > I think that the basic point here is that it's very easy for > developers and users alike with multi-gigaHertz machines with gigs of > RAM and many megabits of broadband access to forget that there are > people with /no/ Internet access, not even dial-up, and for whom > 10-15y old PCs are all they have access to. > > In the UK there is a charity called Computer Aid: > http://www.computeraid.org/ > > They do not accept machines below what I consider quite a high spec - > broadly, "Pentium IV Processor rated at 1.4 Ghz upwards": > http://www.computeraid.org/whatpc.htm > > And they almost exclusively use MS software. I suspect they may even > be sponsored by MS. > > Windows 95 caused a massive boom in the PC industry. Many of those > machines still work and there is not much in the way of FOSS software > to run on them any more. Vector Linux once supported them but not any > more. Puppy Linux (which is OK but always runs as root, which is a > horrible massive security hole) and DamnSmallLinux will run on them > reasonably, but both are LiveCDs - whereas many machines of this age > can't boot from CD. Neither is elegant or neat in the way it installs > to disk and neither can readily be updated afterwards. > > We really need a lightweight, upgradable, Debian-based Linux for > *really* low-end kit. > > >From what I have read, Lubuntu is just going to be another respin of > Ubuntu with a different desktop and no use for this kind of PC at all. > As such, I predict it will sink into invisibility and obscurity. > > Linux once ran on such kit. There's no reason it should not any more. > > I reckon the target for decent, usable performance should be: > > 486DX4/100 or so > 64MB RAM > 1.2GB disk > ISA network and sound > boot from floppy, install from CD or over the network > > Anything that ran on this would go like stink on a Pentium 1 machine > with 128MB and 4G of disk - a good box for Windows 98 from 10-12y or > so ago. > > Even in London, I can and do give away such machines very quickly and > easily on Freecycle, even today. > > -- > Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven > Email: [email protected] • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: [email protected] > Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 > AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven > MSN: [email protected] • ICQ: 73187508 > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
