Hi Jackson, I'll start off a new email thread with [PPC Beta 1] as the title, so people who are not PPC know that they need not read it :)
Regards, Phill. On 14 March 2013 19:53, Jackson Doak <[email protected]> wrote: > i will try and get some testing done. anything specific? > i can't get the recursive bug workarounds to work, so that limits what i > can test. > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 6:50 AM, Phill Whiteside <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi wxl, >> >> well, we didn't get a beta 1 PPC alternate out and I've just been told >> that PPC Desktop is oversized. >> >> Not the end of the world, as we are only at beta 1, but it does flag up >> that this issue is not going any where on its own and needs a concerted >> 'pull' by the PPC testers to see what we can get sorted out before beta 2 >> lands. >> >> regards, >> >> Phill. >> >> On 3 February 2013 19:32, ∅ <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Well I can't make that much of a comment based on such little info but >>> if you mess with our video drivers it will be the death of PPC ;-) >>> >>> I would like no know more about this new kernel format as well as the >>> new binaries. Honestly I'm more concerned (maybe excited) about the effect >>> of these than oversized isos. >>> >>> My feeling is that right now we have a lot of G3 users. These early >>> machines are the ones that will be most affected by large images whereas >>> newer machines can handle DVDs. >>> >>> On the other hand, those machines are best taken care of through an >>> alternate install so as long as those are ok we should be fine. >>> >>> At this point I would strongly advocate only having the alternate. I >>> would love to provide a live CD for people to test with, but between >>> wireless and video, and the fact we have limited resources to ensure it >>> works right, expecting desktop to work for most people is an unreasonable >>> expectation. >>> >>> When I first started looking for Linux for my Mac, I looked specifically >>> for live CDs because I wasn't ready to commit without knowing it would >>> work. I can't imagine I'm the only one that felt that way. Us PPC users >>> know that we are pretty unsupported, even by Apple. However, if we can make >>> alternate really work well, even if it is through documentation, I think it >>> will put people's minds at ease. >>> >>> That's my 2¢. >>> wxl >>> On Feb 3, 2013 9:17 AM, "Phill Whiteside" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I think that until a fix is found, removing some things from the PPC >>>> iso is the least worst choice, as some PPC machines really do not like >>>> booting from USB. >>>> >>>> Walter, I'd appreciate your and the other PPC testers view on this. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Phill. >>>> >>>> On 3 February 2013 07:51, Julien Lavergne <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Le 01/25/2013 04:27 AM, Phill Whiteside a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> The Desktop [1] shows as over sized. Would you be so kind as to put >>>>>> it on a diet and have it slimmed down :) >>>>>> >>>>> I didn't forget you :-) >>>>> >>>>> Currently, I think it's a bug somewhere between the way the desktop >>>>> ISO is done, and the new "format" of powerpc kernel (there several new >>>>> binaries since 13.04), since alternate is not affected. I need to raise >>>>> and >>>>> document a bug about it. >>>>> >>>>> In the meantime, I can cut-off some applications not essential to >>>>> reduce the size of the ISO. But it will also remove by default those >>>>> applications for all installations (not only the desktop ISO). >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Julien Lavergne >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
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