On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjja...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> On 11/06/2013 07:55 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Kindly have a read at: >>> >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre >>> >>> I have updated this Wiki Page with some new information which a bit >>> more in details than here: >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved#Lubuntu_Community >>> >>> Myself and some 'active' members of Lubuntu have discussed lately about >>> the activities of the team in general. We have noticed there are some >>> people who remain silent for months without any notice and then show up >>> suddenly then disappear again. We noticed that the list of members need to >>> be cleaned up so the Team Leaders of Lubuntu know at least who is >>> contributing and ask them for help and who is not. We have noticed that the >>> overall activities have been much less and while this could be normal in >>> regular releases at this stage, it is NOT for this cycle - why? simply >>> because Lubuntu 14.04 is going to be an LTS Release and that requires lots >>> of 'TEAM' work and I insist, TEAM WORK. >>> >>> Also, we *(active members of the team) *came to understand that >>> previously, some tasks/roles were being handled by only 1-2 people if not >>> only one. This has proved to add unbelievable stress and huge burden over >>> the shoulder of those people. And, in most times, when they were in need to >>> help and support, they got very little bit of it. THIS must NOT be the case >>> in this cycle. And, I am sorry to be extra honest here but I will simply >>> leave Lubuntu once and for all if I will continue to feel that this is a >>> few people job rather than a Community and Team work. >>> >>> Team work = "We must all have a great sense of responsibility and not >>> let things happen because everyone takes the comfortable view that someone >>> else is looking after it. Someone else isn't looking after it." >>> >>> Lubuntu needs you for the coming 6 months and even after releasing >>> Lubuntu 14.04 LTS, whether it will be supported for 2 years or more Lubuntu >>> will still need you. Please, don't let Lubuntu down! >>> >>> You may wonder what is the big deal behind all that but for myself and >>> some other members, this is called Loyalty and being in love with Lubuntu >>> which will make you dedicate some of your own time to do things and most of >>> the time, do more than what you are supposed to do. Lubuntu has a special >>> magic that not only can breathe new life into an old semi-dead machine but >>> can take you far away and open your mind and change your life. >>> >>> Before the Real Hard and Tough Work starts for 14.04, it is a very >>> good time to discuss such issues before 'active' people get busy with >>> testing, bugs, etc and won't have time to stuff like that :) >>> >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre >>> >>> Hopefully, we can get this list updated soon! >>> Because, we do need to know who is contributing and participating and >>> who is not. At least, for our information and I see nothing wrong with that >>> :) >>> >>> >>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/team-activity >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> -- >>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." >>> Best Regards, >>> amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> >>> Areas of Involvement<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement> >>> My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Aere Greenway <a...@dvorak-keyboards.com >>> > wrote: >>> Ali: >>> >>> As I indicated in my last reply to you, at present, I am very busy, and >>> only contribute occasionally. >>> >>> If the criteria for being on this list as being able to put in more >>> time, then by all means, feel free to remove me from this e-mail list. >>> >>> - Aere >>> >>> -- >>> Sincerely, >>> Aere >>> >>> Hi Aere, >> >> I am sorry if my email wasn't clear for you. Allow me to explain in easy, >> simple and clear way :) >> >> 1- I am afraid you are confused between the mailing list as a way to >> communicate with everyone and being active as a contributor :) I am sure I >> have explained that to you months ago but I'd be glad to explain that >> again. I am sure I was extra clear about the two groups that our community >> consists of: Users and Contributors. For Users, they are not required to be >> active. For Contributors, they 'are required' to be active :) >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre#Lubuntu_Community >> >> 2- NO ONE will remove ANYONE. This is a Mailing List for everyone and as >> long as we are following these guidelines: >> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailing-lists - then everything >> is fine. No one is going to remove you, Aere :) >> >> 3- This is a usual routine we do from time to time. What is special this >> time is we will go for an LTS release and we do need to re-evaluate >> everything to avoid the previous mistakes and adopt the best approach to >> not only have a rock solid system but a strong team that is capable of >> whatever task/challenge it may have of face :) >> >> I hope this is clear and if not, please let me know and I will be very >> glad to re-explain. >> >> If you think you are busy then for sure, you can simply add your name >> here: >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre#Lubuntu_Users >> >> Before, we had only a list of actual members and active contributors but >> now, Users can also add their names :) >> >> Thank you! >> >> @Phill, Lars and others who updated their entries: THANK YOU SO MUCH :D >> >> Have a great time everyone! >> >> >> -- >> >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Sergio Meneses < >> sergioandresmene...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I am agree! >> >> Sergio Meneses >> Linux User: #478743 >> Ubuntu User: #24056 >> >> > Hi Sergio,
I am glad you agree. It breaks my heart to see only few are still active and it makes ms sad a lot to see this community has a problem that should be addressed and fixed: Lack Of Communications! I am sorry, I don't feel that we are working as a team anymore. Thank you for everyone who is active and for those who are trying to be active. Someone needs to start recruiting more contributors IMHO. I wish I could do that but for two reasons, I will not. 1- I am so busy with Ubuntu GNOME Team ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/UbuntuGNOME-Team) 2- I am no longer interested to do a lot alone all by myself. Lubuntu is a community and there should be a team work. I do know who is active. They are a huge support. They are helping me and helping this community to remain active and move forward. But, they are few. They know who they are, I don't need to mention names :) THANK YOU for your support. I will be around if you guys need me! Good Luck :) -- Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." Best Regards, amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> Areas of Involvement <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement> My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects>
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