Hi folks, well, it does seem we have a small core of people wanting to use LTSP with lubuntu. If I could make a couple of suggestions?
We have a group that are advocates of PPC (the older Macs), for chasing problems they use the lubuntu-quality area[1, 2] and that mailing list for discussions. You good people are more than welcome to avail yourself of that area. They prefix a subject title with PPC so that everyone knows what an email is about (It is a low volume email account). I'd suggest making use of it and using LTSP as your prefix. There are some excellent resources and people really keen at the other *buntu groups [3] specifically the Edubuntu guys. even though they do not 'run' lubuntu, they do have a good working knowledge of LTSP's and I'm sure would be delighted to hear from you. If you'd like me to create a lubuntu LTSP wiki page along the lines of what we have for PPC, please simply ask :) Regards, Phill. 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing 2. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PPC%26Mac64 3. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP#Other_Useful_Resources On 8 December 2012 21:17, John Hupp <[email protected]> wrote: > It was a slow-dawning realization for me as I continued to research > this, but I too was concluding that I needed various xserver-xorg-video-* > packages. However, checking just now, I find that I already have the > meta-package installed (xserver-xorg-video-all) that installs their whole > suite. > > I see that the binary drivers fglrx and fglrx-updates are available but > not installed. So perhaps those are an option here, though I may have read > somewhere that there may be some complications uninstalling those if they > don't provide a solution. > > I'm now wondering how I can troubleshoot what xorg is doing. On the > server, I have /var/log/Xorg.0.log to look at, for instance, and though I > don't know how to read that very well, I can tell that it selects a certain > set of drivers to try to load, and provides various kinds of information > about how they loaded (or didn't) and with what settings. But in this case > with LTSP clients, though I have syslog messages being forwarded from the > clients to the server, that does not include the xorg log messages, right? > If that's so, then perhaps I would want to ssh in to /var/log/Xorg.0.log on > the client, but my current recollection is that ssh to the client fails > when I get these stalled startups. I think I need to double-check that. > > Can I force usage of a certain driver? I read that this was supported > with xorg.conf, but that does not exist by default now, and I think Xorg > uses an automated configuration system called KMS, about which I know next > to nothing. But perhaps a configuration via xorg.conf is still > respected/supported? > > ----------------- > > In any case, as a result of running the lspci and lshw commands with > several setups, I now have a better identification of a few of the hardware > items: > > > Worked: > - PCI Matrox Millennium II MGA 2164W (PCI card) > - Intel 82810E (integrated) > - ATI RV200 QW [Radeon 7500] > - ATI Rage 128 Pro AGP > - ATI Rage 128 RF/SG AGP > > - HP VectaVL PC w/ integrated video, probably either: > Matrox G250 2X AGP > Matrox Millennium G400 4X AGP > > Partially Worked (got past the blank, black screen but then failed > somehow): > - Diamond STL III S540 XTRM32M 82 (AGP card) > - Diamond Speedstar A50 with SiS 6326AGP chip (AGP card) > > > Failed: > - Trident 3DImage 9850 (AGP card) > - S3 Trio64V+ (PCI card) > - Diamond Viper with Power Weitek 9000/9001 and Oak Technology T9351 chips > (PCI card) > - ATI 210888GX [Mach64 GX] (PCI card) > - ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP 1x/2x > > On 12/8/2012 2:41 PM, Ioannis Vranos wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:17 PM, John Hupp <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for having a look at this. > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto > I didn't detail this fact in this thread, but for the cards that stall at a > blank, black screen during a normal boot, I can configure LTSP to just boot > to a shell (successfully) rather than to trying to load ldm, which results > in the stalled boot. From the sell I can use the commands mentioned in the > article: > lspci | grep VGA > sudo lshw -C video > I can get Lubuntu's identification of the current card and find out if it is > supposed to be supported (from the next link). > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards > Although who knows if that supported-cards info will be current. I thought > I read somewhere about some distros that newer libraries were causing more > regressions for older video hardware. > > Had you a look at the xserver-xorg-video packages? For examples, see below. > > > > > Worked: > - PCI Matrox Millennium II MGA 2164W (PCI card) > - Intel 82810E (integrated) > - An ATI-based AGP card sold as a MIC E-G012-02-1214(B) > - ATI Rage 128 Pro (AGP card) > - ATI Rage 128 (AGP card) > - HP VectaVL PC w/ integrated video, probably either: > Matrox G250 2X AGP > Matrox Millennium G400 4X AGP > > Partially Worked (got past the blank, black screen but then failed somehow): > - Diamond STL III S540 XTRM32M 82 (AGP card) > - Diamond Spdstr A50 with SiS 6326AGP chip (AGP card) > > Failed: > - Trident 3DImage 9850 (AGP card) > > Have you installed the xserver-xorg-video-trident package? > > > - S3 Trio64V+ (PCI card) > > Have you installed xserver-xorg-video-s3 for this? And so on. > > > > - Diamond Viper with Power Weitek 9000/9001 and Oak Technology T9351 chips > (PCI card) > - ATI Mach64 (PCI card) > - eMachines eTower 500i w/ integrated video, probably: > ATI Rage Pro Turbo 2X AGP > > > > -- > Lubuntu-users mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users > > -- > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw > >
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