oh, okay sorry. I had an issue with 12.10 and assumed since I had used 11.10 just fine, this had been going on since 12.04, thanks for the correction!
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <[email protected]>wrote: > And I had to go back to my archive on Gmail to find more about it: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > *On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:33 PM*, Ali Linx (amjjawad) < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> For the ones like me who are not cryptologists, PAE : Physical Address >>> Extension. >>> See >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Physical_Address_Extension<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension> >>> a >>> good definition. >>> But* I'd like to know why it's important (if at all) and how it relates >>> to Lubuntu.* >> >> >> We had that discussion before but I can tell you are new to our mailing >> list so allow me to explain briefly about that :) >> >> Some old machines has *NON-PAE CPU*. If you have a Linux Distribution >> with a *PAE Kernel*, then that system will not be bootable on a machine >> with NON-PAE CPU. >> >> During the development of 12.04, both Xubuntu and Lubuntu teams decided >> to go for a NON-PAE Kernel (Generic Kernel - run "uname -r" in the >> terminal) so those users with NON-PAE CPU will not have any problem and >> they still can use Lubuntu and Xubuntu 12.04. >> >> Ubuntu Kernel Team has decided to drop the NON-PAE Kernel and go for PAE >> Kernel. >> As per Julien, we can't go against that unless we hire a developer who >> can make it possible. >> We don't have any database/numbers of how many users over there with a >> NON-PAE CPU, that is why I asked :) >> >> Hope it helps :) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Above is an old discussion about PAE and NON-PAE Kernels :) > We managed to go NON-PAE for 12.04 but we couldn't for 12.10 :) > > Hope everything is clear now ;) > Anyone can go back to the mailing list archive if desired :) > > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi there David :) >> >> I would strongly recommend to have a read here: >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu#System_Requirements >> >> and I'm sure you may want to re-phrase what you previously said :) >> >> Lubuntu 12.04 is using a NON-PAE Kernel. Well, the link says it all :) >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:59 AM, David Gumberg < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> For those of you who are wondering, the reason older machines can't run >>> 12.10 or 12.04, it's because the kernel uses PAE (it's a method to have >>> more than 4 gigs of ram on a 32-bit operating system I think), and for >>> those of you who have hardware that doesn't support PAE, the two good >>> alternatives are LXLE and Fedora (LXDE spin). If you want something more >>> upstream, go with the Fedora, but if for some reason you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO >>> have that Debian/buntu experience I'd go with LXLE (Lubuntu Extra-Life >>> Edition), it's Lubuntu 12.04 with a couple of tweaks, and it uses a non-PAE >>> kernel. I've tried and used both of them, and and Fedora is a bit more >>> vanilla LXDE so I prefer it, but both alternatives are awesome! >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I've been discussing this issue and Lubuntu 12.04 being 100% LTS or not >>>> [1] and all the confusion about "will Lubuntu still support my very old >>>> machine or not?" for the last two weeks or maybe more. >>>> >>>> Long story short, I will jump in and find out myself some if not all >>>> the answers that our users are seeking and looking for. >>>> >>>> http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/lucid/ >>>> I'm downloading Lubuntu 10.04 right now from the above link. >>>> >>>> I will install it once done on my test machine. >>>> I need to see myself what is going on and the EOL for the 10.04 Desktop >>>> version is coming soon, less than a month. That will be really interesting >>>> :) >>>> As you know/may know, each release has different Kernel [2]. Some >>>> machines can't use 12.04 or 12.10 because the support had been >>>> dropped/stopped. So, if you guys have Qs about that, you do now know who is >>>> doing the test and experiments. >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> [1] - http://i46.tinypic.com/i24igz.jpg >>>> >>>> [2] - >>>> http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/04/lubuntu-and-very-old-machines.html<http://amjjawad.blogspot.ae/2013/04/lubuntu-and-very-old-machines.html> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Phill Whiteside <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have an update for 10.04 >>>>> >>>>> *Ending Ubuntu Desktop support just means that we no longer release >>>>> desktop- >>>>> related updates, the repository won't (can't) go away and be archived, >>>>> since >>>>> server, as you note, still depends on it. In that sense, lucid in >>>>> general >>>>> is "supported" for another three years. Nothing changes for people, >>>>> they >>>>> just won't get non-server SRUs and security updates from Canonical, >>>>> nor is >>>>> there a community commitment to make them. >>>>> >>>>> So, your users don't need to do anything. Kernels will keep getting >>>>> updated, >>>>> and life goes on.* >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Phill. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 29 March 2013 21:21, Phill Whiteside <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> just so everyone knows. The up coming EOL dates were a little bit >>>>>> staggered on the exact dates. To bring everything together, the Release >>>>>> Team have decided upon the following. >>>>>> >>>>>> The following releases will all reach End Of Life on May 9th 2013. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hardy 8.04 (Server) >>>>>> Ubuntu 10.04 (Desk Top) >>>>>> Ubuntu 11.10 >>>>>> >>>>>> As 10.04 is supported on server until 2015 thus giving such people at >>>>>> least a chance of still receiving kernel updates, I have asked if there >>>>>> is >>>>>> a way for the 10.04 lubuntu desktop to continue to receive the kernel >>>>>> updates for lubuntu 10.04 desktop for those of whom the dropping of the >>>>>> old >>>>>> chip sets is the only option they have. >>>>>> >>>>>> The area at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases has been updated by the >>>>>> team to reflect the revised dates. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Phill. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs >>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Best Regards, >>>> amjjawad* >>>> *https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/* >>>> Lubuntu One Stop Thread<http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755>| >>>> My Launchpad <https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad> | My Ubuntu Forum >>>> Profile <http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822> >>>> ** >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lubuntu-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Best Regards, >> amjjawad* >> *https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/* >> Lubuntu One Stop Thread<http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755>| >> My Launchpad <https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad> | My Ubuntu Forum >> Profile <http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822> >> ** >> > > > > -- > *Best Regards, > amjjawad* > *https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/* > Lubuntu One Stop Thread <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755>| > My Launchpad <https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad> | My Ubuntu Forum > Profile<http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822> > ** >
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