Re: Roadmap for Lubuntu

Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:06:24 -0700

I like a LTS.
Maybe like a lxde-qt (not a razor-qt)
Don't like MIR.

Regards
 
Jesus Eguiluz
Ingeniero Electrónico.
www.andeselec.com
El 26/04/13 20:16, Sergio Meneses escribió:
Sounds good for me! If I can help with something, let me know :D

Sergio Meneses
Linux User: #478743
Ubuntu User: #24056


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <[email protected]> wrote:
Julien and everyone,

Congratulation and WELL DONE :D
Yet another successful release and we should really be proud of that. Above all, without our loyal users, we won't achieve or reach this point. What a fantastic and amazing family :D

I'm not a developer so don't set your sensors high :D easy on me.

First thing first, this is GREAT NEWS, WOW :D
MHO, regardless of any details, if dropping 13.10 will buy us more time and definitely it will, so that we focus on THE RELEASE of Lubuntu (14.04) which we are planning to make it an LTS release, yet our best release, then +1 from me for dropping 13.10 and again, regardless of any other details - just stating my personal opinion :)

And could we have more details about:

Well, you probably know that Canonical is pushing for a Qt switch over
GTK, but also by changing it's display manager (MIR). You may know
also that LXDE is thinking about switching to Qt too, by joining
forces with Razor-qt desktop environment. All those changes may be an
opportunity to start another adventure, using Razor-qt as a base. It's
also a reason to release 14.04 as a LTS, because it could be the final
release with LXDE and GTK.  We will also be free to make very big
changes for 14.10, because we know we have a LTS behind to recommend,
for a long time.

To prepare this, I'll also work on a specific session (call QLubuntu,
pronounce it “Cute Lubuntu” ;-)), to test during 13.10 and 14.04, if
the option to go with Qt is possible.

It seems very early to go in deep details but since you mentioned that, I guess we should discuss that on different separate email - "What is after 14.04" because, looks like we are about to make a huge different jump or as you stated, a new adventure.


I remained silent for the last 21hours :D
Wanted to take some rest (had lots of stuff going on in my real life) but I guess I can't wait. For now, I'm just stating my opinion about 14.04 and how glad I'm for learning that finally, we are going LTS :D

I'd also like to share my upcoming huge projects and important plans.
Long story short:

1- My Huge Plan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu#The_Huge_Project_-_Start_Lubuntu

2- LOST [1] version 2.0 :D
Don't freak out guys, I'm not talking about new thread here, just wait and see ;)
LOST is on the Wiki Area now and it will remain but I'm actually talking about the next version/generation of LOST!

I must save some time to write more details and once I'm done, I will send an email with new subject.

These are my major two plans for now. I was holding that until 13.04 is being released. Someone advised me to wait and I had to listen to his request ;) now, I won't listen :P I want to have fun and do something serious.

WOW Lubuntu will be a huge team work project. Again, details on that link and more coming soon.

LOST version 2 is Doc and Wiki Team project. I will however do the sample/draft of what I'm planning to do and then discuss that with the Wiki Team.

@Julien
Whatever direction you are planning to go, you do have my FULL support ;)


Thank you everyone for this great achievement and great news - we will have so much fun :D can't wait ;)

Ali

[1] - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Julien Lavergne <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,

First and following Phill, I want to thank you all for this 13.04
release. Releases after releases, it seems to go smoother than the
last one :-)

However, it's time to think about the future. During the last cycle,
there were a lot of news from Canonical about the future of Ubuntu.
Lubuntu is part of the family, so every big changes in Ubuntu affect
Lubuntu. However, and I want to make it clear for anyone : Lubuntu is
a community project, with its own release schedules, its own choices …

That's said, let's go with some ideas :-) What I'm going to say, it's
a very long proposal, open for discussions. But discussions mean
arguments if you have another opinion ;-)

Next steps are 13.10, and 14.04 which should be a LTS version for
Ubuntu. Last LTS (12.04), I considered that we were not ready for such
commitment. I was also unsure of the work needed to make a good LTS.
With more experience, I have now a better vision of this goal.

So, let's make it simple, I would like Lubuntu 14.04 to be a LTS version.

But claiming we want a LTS its' not enough. First, we need to make it
stable enough, so we can safely claim it's a LTS, because people who
install a LTS want a stable system. But, I also would like to make it
sexy enough to be proud of it, to make people happy to recommend it. I
would like to make it THE release of Lubuntu, the reference of all
Lubuntu releases. To achieve it, I have several goals in mind, items
that I consider we need to finish for the LTS, and I think we can
finish them :

- Finish lxsession, to make the system fully customizable and able to
run minimal set of applications by default (I'll talk about it later,
when you will be able to test it properly).
- Fully translatable : it's vital to make it available in a maximum of languages
- Artwork : finish the icon theme for a GTK environment, finish the
other pieces of the artwork and its integration, to make Lubuntu even
more beautiful

Another item I would like to add, but I'm not sure we will be able to
make it, it's an off-line documentation, or a nice manual.

Of course, we need also the usual bug fixes and small improvements
everywhere, but the main focus should be on those topics.

Also, soon we will need to decide which applications we want in this
LTS. We should do it in an other discussion, but it's the right time
to do big changes if we consider they are good.

Considering all the big changes which may happen for 13.10, I'm also
thinking of the possibility to not do a proper 13.10 release,
depending of the state of 13.10 after all the big structural changes,
and near feature freeze. Again, it can be reconsidered in due time,
but we may keep this in mind. I'm prepared to drop 1 release if we can
do a very good 14.04 LTS.

And after 14.04 ?

Well, you probably know that Canonical is pushing for a Qt switch over
GTK, but also by changing it's display manager (MIR). You may know
also that LXDE is thinking about switching to Qt too, by joining
forces with Razor-qt desktop environment. All those changes may be an
opportunity to start another adventure, using Razor-qt as a base. It's
also a reason to release 14.04 as a LTS, because it could be the final
release with LXDE and GTK.  We will also be free to make very big
changes for 14.10, because we know we have a LTS behind to recommend,
for a long time.

To prepare this, I'll also work on a specific session (call QLubuntu,
pronounce it “Cute Lubuntu” ;-)), to test during 13.10 and 14.04, if
the option to go with Qt is possible.

So, what do you think about it ? :-)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

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