On 16/06/13 21:27, Nio Wiklund wrote:
See inline and end
On 2013-06-16 21:36, Jonathan Marsden wrote:
On 06/16/2013 11:22 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
I think your analysis is correct, so if you have low RAM
1. Make sure there is swap and that it is active before starting
the installer
2. Do not touch it during the installation (at the partitioning
page)
I think expecting novice users coming from Windows to pre-partition
and set up swap space before they install is asking a *lot*. I'd
much prefer that we focus on installing to an HD with either no
partitions, or a Windows partition, on it, since that is the common
case for newcomers coming from a Windows OS on older hardware.
I agree. But if it does not work without swap?
I think asking people to use the "Install Lubuntu" menu item on
the desktop image is fine, as it is not difficult, and indeed is
even logical, since that is exactly what they want to do :)
I think asking people with lower RAM machines to use the Alternate
Install CD is also fine, as it is no more difficult than using
ubiquity, just less pretty.
How many people start investigating and find the alternate installer?
I think many people dump Lubuntu if the first attempt does not work.
Anything beyond that (using netboot/mini.iso, or manual
pre-partitioning to add swap space, etc.) is, to me, a workaround
rather than something which we should expect normal users to have
to deal with. Suitable for hobbyists, but not for the general
public.
People who ask here or at the Ubuntu Forums will get advice about
the alternate installer and/or prepartioning including swap, but
what percentage are we?
Since I'm writing the Installation chapter of the planned Lubuntu
Manual, if that viewpoint is totally wrong/incorrect/nuts, I need
to know that, ASAP :) In the end it's likely to be my decision,
but I am interested in well-reasoned statements of different
positions on this from anyone in the Lubuntu community.
Jonathan
The solution is to have a system that is transparent: if there is a
problem (in this case low RAM), there should be a warning and advice
what to do:
- alternate installer
- prepartioning including swap
Or make an adaptive system, that skips the slide show (and maybe
some other processes), if there is too low RAM.
I know, an adaptive system will have low priority, but maybe a
warning and some advice is possible to add into the code (not only
into your manual).
For the manual we need to know the lowest amount of RAM needed to run
the Live CD install on it's default settings before recommending the
Alternate CD. We could write an entire manual on install Lubuntu, or
maybe with enough volunteers we can add an advanced installation chapter
at a later date. The pre-partitioning method, and any other workarounds
are for the wiki so that people that ask questions can be pointed to them
--
Steve
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