On 8/7/2013 7:04 PM, John Hupp wrote:
On 8/7/2013 4:26 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
On 08/07/2013 01:28 PM, John Hupp wrote:
On 8/7/2013 3:11 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
On 08/07/2013 12:08 PM, John Hupp wrote:
There was this helpful bug report on file at
http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1178982.
It described behavior on Dell PC's with integrated Intel graphics,
in which Adobe Flash Player would display only with shades of
purple and green in a horizontally compressed window (or at least
that's how I would describe what I see on a Dell Dimension 2400).
The work-around (Comment #1) was to change the Xorg acceleration
method to UXA.
But the bug was closed because the OP didn't have possession of
the machine anymore.
I have not been able to find an active refile of the bug. Is there
one? (I'd like to vote it up!)
--John
John:
I reported that it affects me, as well.
Hi, Aere.
I did too -- in the above bug. But that bug is now closed and
presumably getting no attention from developers. Are you just
saying that you reported in the above bug that it affects you too,
or are you referring to a different bug report?
--John
John:
Sorry - I was just thinking that the bug was not getting attention
because of lack of impact on users.
Not being able to even watch YouTube videos on these machines (in
addition to the choppy color gradients), led me to conclude that
Linux is abandoning all of these machines because of their older
Intel graphics.
I have a newer machine (a Dell Inspiron 620) with Intel graphics that
works just fine. But all of my older Dell machines have the problem.
So I said a few appropriate words (not appropriate to repeat here),
and looked into getting NVIDIA cards for the machines I need to go
forward into the future with.
Where it was the kernel developers abandoning these machines, it
seems I have no choice. What can Lubuntu do if the graphics of all
these machines has been dumped by the kernel developers (those same
developers who would not even consider a minor change for supporting
fake-PAE)?
Eventually, I will get the useful parts from these machines, and
discard them. I can still use them for testing my new software (for
the time being).
Who knows what machines they will condemn to the trash heap in the
next release...
I was sort of hoping against all odds that Ubuntu's new graphics
handler might support the graphics of these machines, but given their
track-record, the odds are definitely against it.
For what it's worth, I have just found that the workaround detailed in
Comment #1 in the bug report
(http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1178982) does
work. On my system there was no existing /etc/X11/xorg.conf, so I
created it and added the specified lines as the sole content of the file.
The colors and the proper window size were restored. This Dell has an
Intel 845G chipset, so this workaround may fix this problem on any
motherboard with the same chipset (or even other Intel chipsets that
use the same Intel driver).
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Verging strictly off-topic, but remaining with the question of getting
Flash to work decently well:
On this former XP machine with a Celeron 2.4 GHz and 1 GB RAM, YouTube
videos in the default window size and playing at 360p seemed to
perform normally. Likewise, video from Hulu can be set to a lower
quality to help assure continuous play. But video from Vimeo can only
be set to HD-Off (if HD is available). And with video from the
broadcast network sites CBS.com, NBC.com and ABC.com, you can only
change screen size. So it seems that videos from Vimeo, CBS, NBC and
ABC offer very little accommodation for lower-spec setups. And
relatedly, I find that video that plays OK on a Windows PC with a dual
core Intel E2200 @ 2.20 GHz -- even with just 1.3 Mbps download on my
DSL service -- plays badly on the 2.4 GHz Celeron using the same
Internet connection. So in this case processing power is more
important than Internet connection speed.
2.4 GHz is the minimum required spec for Flash (the last I knew), but
perhaps that merely means that you'll be able to play *something*
(like YouTube or Hulu videos at a lower-quality setting), not that
you'll be able to play everything.
Does anyone know if there is a way to lower the quality settings for
sites like Vimeo, CBS, NBC and ABC, even if there is no
quality-setting tool in the player interface? (Or does anyone differ
with the assessment I offer above?)
I forgot to include, however, that the bug workaround messes up the
login screen (LightDM). You can make out an entry box that one assumes
is for the password entry, but everything else is largely unidentifiable.
So as a workaround it leaves a lot to be desired, unless we can also
figure out how to fix the login screen.
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