I'm afraid yes. The theme I designed for Lubuntu, the default (called Box) is fully customizable. I added that feature after users requests. But now it's no working on ANY theme.
When a desktop starts, there's a daemon that reads the themes, colurs, fonts, key bindings, etc. And for an unknown reason, Lubuntu loads the theme and locks it. Even if you make a theme "customizable" (all are in some ways) you won't notice the colour changes. It loads as is. In Lubuntu, this startup function is managed by a package called "lxsession". And I'm pretty sure it's the "guilty". -- Rafael Laguna Lubuntu Artwork Team 2014-05-04 21:39 GMT+02:00 Aere Greenway <[email protected]>: > Rafael: > > It would be good to have all of the relevant information initially within > the bug-report. > > I will wait to submit it until you report back on what you find out in > your additional tests. > > I think you are saying that the customization wouldn't work in Lubuntu > even if I developed a custom theme (per Nio's suggestion). > > - Aere > > > > On 05/04/2014 05:55 AM, Rafael Laguna wrote: > > The problem here aren't the themes, is the XSettings daemon. Each > environment has its own: XFCE has xfce4-settings-manager, Gnome has > gnome-settings-daemon, etc. > > The package you're looking for is lxsession. LXDE has a standalone > version of the daemon, called lxsession-daemon which loads independent > config files. I need to do more tests to see if this is working. > > But I insist, this "bug" is not theme related. > > > -- > Rafael Laguna > Lubuntu Artwork Team > > > 2014-05-04 5:11 GMT+02:00 Israel <[email protected]>: > >> On 05/03/2014 08:03 PM, Aere Greenway wrote: >> >> On 05/03/2014 06:48 PM, Israel wrote: >> >> On 05/03/2014 07:26 PM, Aere Greenway wrote: >> >> Rafael: >> >> I will report it as a bug. What package should it be reported against? >> >> Unfortunately, it appears to be one more step down the Ubuntu road of >> taking away customization. So I'm doubtful anything will come of it. But >> it means a lot to me, so I will report it, nevertheless. >> >> It may well be the end of color customization. >> >> - Aere >> >> >> On 05/03/2014 05:33 PM, Rafael Laguna wrote: >> >> More clues. I've tested on a few environments. >> >> 1. Lubuntu does no colorize at all. Nor fgtk2 nor gtk3. >> 2. XFCE (using Shimmer's gtk-theme-config) DOES colorize only gtk2 >> (pretty normal, as usually gtk3 is not able to do this) >> 3. Mate. The same as XFCE, only colorizes gtk2 apps (I insist, gtk3 apps >> cannot be colorized as is, they need to be tweaked via .gtk-3.0 RC). >> 4. Ubuntu hasn't this feature anymore. >> >> So, as colorization works in every environment as eexpected, the >> problem is ours. But themes react fine in other desktops, so there's no >> problem at all on engines or themes RC files. >> >> So, once tested all steps, there's only one left: the LXDE session >> settings daemon. Shall we declare it as a bug? >> >> >> -- >> Rafael Laguna >> Lubuntu Artwork Team >> >> >> 2014-05-04 0:23 GMT+02:00 Rafael Laguna <[email protected]>: >> >>> Yes, I can't customize Lubuntu-default, experimental Box, or even >>> Adwaita. Now I'm testing Xubuntu themes and they seem to be un-colorizable >>> too. Something's happening to the Desktop Settings daemon. It's not theme >>> or engine related. It also affects GTK3. >>> >>> Let me try more tests on other environments and I hope to have an >>> answer or, at least, a clue. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Rafael Laguna >>> Lubuntu Artwork Team >>> >>> >>> 2014-05-03 22:37 GMT+02:00 Aere Greenway <[email protected]>: >>> >>> All: >>>> >>>> I encountered a problem with Lubuntu 14.04 which (to me) is a >>>> show-stopper. I'm sure it isn't as important to others. >>>> >>>> I have my own peculiar style of customized colors. One of the main >>>> reasons my primary system uses Lubuntu is because of the >>>> color-customization, which retains the ease-of-use that was present in >>>> Ubuntu 11.04. >>>> >>>> I upgraded a Lubuntu 13.10 system for which the colors worked fine. >>>> After the upgrade to 14.04, the color customization does not appear in any >>>> windows I have tried (and I have tried a lot of them). >>>> >>>> Even in the window where you change the appearance with custom colors, >>>> it shows that it remembers the colors I specified, but the specified colors >>>> are not used in the window in which I specify them. >>>> >>>> It appears that color-customization can be done in the preferences >>>> settings, but the color customization you specify is universally ignored. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have any idea of how to make color-customization work in >>>> Lubuntu 14.04? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Aere >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lubuntu-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Sincerely, >> Aere >> >> >> >> Of course you can always make your own theme, so it will never be dead. >> I have made a few themes for the WM, and the panel is still customizable >> fortunately. >> @Aere, Rafael did say the bug was in lubuntu session settings daemon. >> >> -- >> Regards >> >> >> >> Israel: >> >> Is there something in the repository you install to build your own >> theme? If so, what is the package name I should use (or search-for)? >> >> Using Synaptic Package Manager, searching for 'lubuntu', I do not see >> anything that resembles "lubuntu session settings daemon". Do you know >> what the package name is for it? >> >> -- >> Sincerely, >> Aere >> >> Aere, it depends on what kind of theme you are making. If you want >> the widgets (buttons, progress bars etc...) that is GTK, which I don't know >> a whole lot about. >> If you are talking about window borders, etc.. that is openbox. Openbox >> themes are simple xml files, that you can edit by hand (or programatically >> if you fancy). >> >> Before you go downloading Geany for some Openbox fun try out: >> http://box-look.org/ >> >> You can also browse for GTK themes: >> http://xfce-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=100 >> (If I remember Lubuntu might support GTK3 also... but I don't know for >> 100% sure off the top of my head) >> >> I hope this helps >> >> >> I think the package with the issue is related to the lxsession >> package.... but Rafael, or one of the developers may have a better idea >> what part is actually the problem. >> >> -- >> Regards >> >> >> -- >> Lubuntu-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users >> >> > > > -- > Sincerely, > Aere > >
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