Hi Rafael,

I understand that we have to freeze artwork for each release. But I wondered if we could hope to have some artwork bug fixes in Lubuntu 14.04.1 (I am thinking to monochrome icon in lxpanel) ?


Le 10/06/2014 18:05, Rafael Laguna a écrit :
We make things for a reason. When we create new icons, themes, apps or whatever, they are intended to be part of the system you have on your home. But sometimes we need to experiment, or make tests, or just ensure what we do does not affect a massive amount of computers.

Box is part of Lubuntu, yes. But it's a standalone theme too, if you use another Linux distro. Also, I add lots of new icons and make changes in the GTK theme. Imagine the situation that I modify something that breaks the system on thousands of computers (it happened, trust me). Before we push the changes onto Ubuntu's main repos we have to be really really sure it works as expected.

That's the reason I have a separate PPA for artwork. The same about the staging apps. When you download a system you expect it keeps stable and not changing daily. And we're Artwork Team. We cannot login in Canonical's servers everyday and say "hey, I'm going to change some stuff, so your ISOs may change size and stability and package dependencies". There's a complex structure and there're protocols in the way we work.


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2014-06-10 17:44 GMT+02:00 N. W. <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

    Hello,

    > Rafael Laguna wrote:
    >
    > Its' normal that an independent
    > development (the Unified Box for Linux) goes further than
    > the official updates (the Ubuntu repositories).

    I do not consider lubuntu-artwork to be independent from Lubuntu. When
    I install Lubuntu, I want to receive updates to lubuntu-artwork
    (and by
    default and automatically). Lubuntu ships with lubuntu-artwork by
    default, so why shouldn't I receive updates for lubuntu-artwork by
    default? Why do I have to search and add a PPA?

    > Rafael Laguna wrote:
    >
    > The version updated is 0.47 and you'll receive that
    > version via the Artwork Daily PPA.

    That does not answer my question. Why do I have to add this PPA to a
    Lubuntu installation? Why isn't it added by default or why isn't
    lubuntu-artwork receiving updates by default (without having to add
    this PPA)?

    We're not talking about a third party GTK+ / icon theme here. We're
    talking about the Box icon theme / Box GTK+ theme, the official theme
    of an offical Ubuntu spin. I consider this to be quite a difference.

    By the way:

    I also do not understand why I have to search for and have to add
    a PPA
    to receive those updates:

    https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2014-May/007478.html
    https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+archive/staging
    <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-dev/+archive/staging>

    Why can't this just be added to Lubuntu by default?

    If you ask me, you really should release a new ISO with those things
    being added / updating by default ASAP.

    Just saying...

    Regards

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