@HH: Funny . . . I didn't know other people have bills . . . hmmmm, total re-think on collective life in a capitalistic society. But, when you say, "run the build command" . . . is this a general suggestion of something to do on the computer to fill its time . . . or specific to keeping my olde PM 3,1 running 12.04, but something that needs to be "built" . . . so that the upgrade for XFCE could then be installed ???
F On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. < [email protected]> wrote: > We all got bills, just run the build command leave the computer, do what > you gotta do, come back and you should be done :) > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Fritz Hudnut <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> @AG: >> >> Thanks for the emotional support, yes, sniff, it's a lonely world in >> linux PPC . . . nobody calls, nobody "likes" my posts . . . the devs don't >> respond to bug reports . . . . : - ((((( >> >> But, sure, 450 MHz is "OK" for many local tasks, it just gets totally >> overwhelmed in places like FB . . . . >> >> @HH: >> >> Appreciate the reply as well, however, "get down to the terminal" . . . >> right, but for what? I do use the terminal for routine upgrades, but, >> having spent time in fink and mintppc, where upgrades/installs took 8 >> hours, during which something would invariably break, I've moved on to the >> more stable systems like the 'buntu flavors, that don't take so much time >> and attention to just get them to run. Like, if there was a wiki on how to >> update xfce to 4.10 or 4.12 while in 12.04, and the CL instructions were >> detailed . . . I could maybe find the time. But, compiling a kernel?? Too >> many things to do that I'm already ignoring . . . I've got "bills" . . . >> "bills" . . . "bills" . . . . : - ) >> >> F >> >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Fritz, >>> >>> I would strongly encourage you getting down to the command line. It will >>> help you so much with Linux on PPC. I think once you get started you will >>> see that tasks like applying patches, building .deb files, even compiling a >>> kernel are not as daunting as they may sound. You will definitely feel that >>> you are more in control of your computing freedom. >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Aere Greenway <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> On 08/09/2015 04:37 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: >>>> >>>>> But, this JWM for PPC has been mentioned before, perhaps by the time >>>>> you have the time to do that, might be around when all support for 12.04 >>>>> is >>>>> dropped . . . . It's "hard" to work with a 450 MHz processor these days. >>>>> >>>> Fritz: >>>> >>>> I know (thanks to your reporting) that PPC support (or lack of such) is >>>> its own 'bag of worms', unfortunately. I am impressed with your dogged >>>> determination in trying to solve the many problems strewn in your path. >>>> >>>> But at least in the Intel world, I have a 450 megahertz HP Vectra test >>>> machine, and it works with Lubuntu 14.04, 14.10, and now (more recently) >>>> with Lubuntu 15.04 (15.04 tested-out better than 14.10). >>>> >>>> It runs my MIDI music tests, including running Qsynth, Qjactctl, >>>> Rosegarden, and Java. It played a demanding MIDI sequence without a single >>>> under-run error in qjackctl being reported. >>>> >>>> That being said, it is a slow machine, that I would not recommend to >>>> anyone. Its best use is probably for me as a minimum-system test machine. >>>> But someone could use it, if they were motivated to. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Aere >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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