On 06/01/2016 05:57 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
Hi Lubuntuers,

Let us discuss the problem that the current Lubuntu alternate iso files are oversized for CD disks. I filed a bug report about it, but it has not generated much heat.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1572429

Do you want to make an effort to create a CD sized alternate iso file, or is it time for Lubuntu to abandon those old computers, that only boot from CD?

We can suggest to try booting via Plop and a USB boot drive (chainloading after Plop has supplied a USB driver).

Best regards
Nio

Nio:

Though I wish there were a Lubuntu version that would boot from CD, from what I have seen over the years, if a big effort were made to make this possible, it would most likely be only a temporary victory.

As time goes on, new functionality goes into the kernel, and support for older machines is kept (again, we don't want to abandon those machines), so the kernel keeps getting bigger. I would not want the kernel developers to remove support for older hardware, so removing older stuff to make room for the new is not (to me) a good idea.

Also, in the repository, as more useful things become available, those new things become used, and eventually become essential. So again, the essential repository components' space on the install CD gradually grows.

So far, even my oldest machines have been able to boot from USB (using Plop), including using the older USB 1.0 ports, which are slow, but not impossibly slow). My problems with booting from USB have been problems with the USB Creator software.

By the way, you can get USB 2.0 PCI cards (for a desktop), providing faster USB, and they are (were?) inexpensive. Of course, that doesn't help for a laptop.

Since I need to get the wireless working first on my machines before installing, I prefer to use the live desktop version (rather than the alternate install), so I would probably not use a CD-size alternate install version anyway.

This is, of course, my opinion on the subject.

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Sincerely,
Aere


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