Den 2018-10-21 kl. 13:44, skrev Nio Wiklund:
Den 2018-10-21 kl. 13:30, skrev Nio Wiklund:
Den 2018-10-21 kl. 13:27, skrev Nio Wiklund:
Den 2018-10-21 kl. 02:04, skrev Aere Greenway:
On 10/20/18 2:13 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:
On 10/19/18 11:01 PM, Simon Quigley wrote:
You can find the full release announcement here:
https://lubuntu.me/cosmic-released

Please also take a look at the release video made by Michael from
TuxDigital:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRgcsTQGvwU

I just want to say thanks to everyone who has participated in these
mailing lists over this past cycle, whether it's helping other people, reporting problems for us to solve, or discussing issues in general, you
all are very much appreciated. :)

If anyone is lurking and wanting to get more involved with the project,
now's your time to reach out. At the start of the 19.04 cycle we're
going to have a lot to do, and not just in terms of technical tasks, but the Lubuntu Manual needs some more work as well as other non-technical
tasks. Feel free to send me an email with what you would like to help
with, and we can find a place for you. That's what at least seven people
(listed on the release announcement) did throughout the cycle, and we
found a place for them where every single one of them has made an
incredible impact on the project. It could be you, seriously!

Until the 19.04 codename is announced, I would encourage Lubuntu
contributors to take a short break if there's nothing to help with with respect to 18.10. I'll personally be taking a short break from directly
contributing until the codename is announced, with the exception of
packages that need to be uploaded.

Thanks again, and have a good night.


All:

I began testing Lubuntu 18.10, and ran into some things that are different, which I wanted to ask about before I start making assumptions.

1. I usually test 32-bit systems first.  I noticed that a 32-bit DVD or USB would go a very long time without booting on a machine with 64-bit hardware.  I gave up trying to boot it after about 10 minutes. There was no indication of a problem - it just took too long to boot (I finally gave up), from either USB or DVD.  However, that same live-DVD system booted fine on a machine with 32-bit hardware.  In the past, I could install a 32-bit OS on 64-bit hardware, but it appears it will not even boot on 18.10 (and there is no error indication).  Is this behavior expected?

2. I don't use QWERTY keyboard layout, so I change the keyboard layout to English-Dvorak.  On Lubuntu 18.10, I was unable to figure out how to do that.  If I keep trying, I may discover a way.  How do you change the keyboard layout on Lubuntu 18.10?

3. On past levels of Lubuntu, Thunderbird Mail was the e-mail client. I have had bad experiences in the past migrating to new e-mail clients, which appears to be necessary with Lubuntu 18.10. I realize using Thunderbird Mail on Lubuntu 18.10 would cause a large number of libraries to be installed.  But if I am willing to put up with that, will Thunderbird Mail work on Lubuntu 18.10?

- Aere

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Sincerely,
Aere

Regarding item 1, the 32-bit DVD boots successfully (and installs a system) as long as it is booted on 32-bit hardware.  It won't boot on 64-bit hardware, and I think after a long-time, it reported an error that it couldn't find the bootable file (something like that).  The 32-bit USB boots successfully on a 32-bit machine, but not on a 64-bit machine.

On item 2, I figured out how to change keyboard layouts.  It's very much like the prior level (I don't know why I didn't think of that). You insert a keyboard control widget in the panel, and use that to add a new layout (DVORAK), and switch to it.

On item 3, I had to install a number of gnome-based tools (such a gdebi), and they worked okay, so perhaps Thunderbird Mail may work (I hope).

- Aere

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Sincerely,
Aere


Hi Aere,

I am able to boot Lubuntu 18.10 in my Toshiba laptop with 64-bit architecture both in UEFI and BIOS mode.

http://www.toshiba.se/laptops/satellite-pro/c850/satellite-pro-c850-19w/

I used mkusb to create a persistent live drive (using default settings). Maybe your problem depends on the tool you use to create the live drive, or maybe it depends on the particular 64-bit computer, maybe there is another problem.

Best regards
Nio

Edit: Adding screenshots


Edit 2: I added the command 'uname -a' showing that it is the 32-bit version of Lubuntu. And the mail to the user list bumped because of the size, so I copied and pasted the text into a text file which is small.

Edit 3:

I tried again, this time *cloning* with mkusb from the iso file to a USB pendrive, and it failed in my Toshiba laptop with 64-bit architecture both in BIOS mode.

The syslinux boot was activated. It booted, but left me with Busybox and the prompt

(initramfs)

Need I tell you, that both the cloned system and the persistent live system boot successfully in my old IBM Thinkpad T41 (using forcepae to make the ancient Pentium M CPU happy).

Persistent live drives by mkusb boot via grub both in UEFI and BIOS mode. So it seems there is a problem to boot via syslinux in 64-bit computers, a problem, that we did not solve before the release.

You can work around it by booting via grub also in BIOS mode. This can be fixed in a convenient way, when you create a persistent live drive with mkusb.

@Simon,

Is this a known and reported bug (or should Aere or I report it)?

Best regards
Nio

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