On 7/13/19 6:41 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
Where my Lubuntu 18.04 i386 systems all started to no longer boot
reliably, it motivated me to switch them to Debian.
The things that cause me problems with Debian, so far, is that
there is a long delay during the reboot after installing Debian 9,
where it seems to be doing nothing at all, and you really have to
just wait for it to complete. Debian 10 doesn't have that
problem, and uses the same installer as Lubuntu 18.10 (Calamares).
The other problem, is that wireless support on Debian is much
poorer than with Ubuntu. It surprised me that I have only one
wireless dongle that works with Debian out-of-the-box. After some
effort installing things, I was able to get the Broadcom (b43)
wireless of my HP Mini working. The wireless of my 32-bit MacBook
also worked out-of-the-box.
From what I read, all of the Debian releases are supported for 5
years, so Debian 10 should be good until July of 2024.
I now know enough to help my kids migrate their systems to Debian 10.
Where so many of my machines are now on Debian, perhaps I should
join that band of Debian purists.
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Sincerely,
Aere
AG:
So far the Sid/Buster system I have installed has been pretty clear to
get done on the install, and in this machine I use ethernet . . . so
no problems connecting; but I do get the "you should install the b43
module" . . . error, but I just ignore it. When I first installed it
Buster/Sid booted up super fast, flew through the dmesg page and into
the GUI log in in the blink of an eye . . . but, over time we've had
some growing pains and it lashed out at the other systems . . . doing
damage . . . and so other systems had to be re-installed after the
Sid/Buster . . . and that seemed to get Buster to "lose track of swap"
and other errors requiring "thought processing" on the boot up . . .
and so now it boots fairly sedately . . . for a 64 bit system.
You could try to join the purists, but they seem to be "picky" . . .
and not exactly "warm" . . . being more on the "technical" side of the
personality spectrum . . . .
But, it does seem a bit "early" for problems to be showing up in 18.04
?? which should still be "current" LTS across the platforms?? Anyway,
you would have had to move to keep the 32 bit units going sometime
soon . . . perhaps Debian will have more motivation to support the 32
bit crowd compared to the low motivation for the bleating PPC crowd .
. . where the "death of PPC" was a slow and lingering thing, followed
by dropping it like a stone ?? : - (((((
F
It did surprise me that all my 32-bit systems on Lubuntu 18.04 stopped
booting reliably.
It is probably (I'm speculating) a side effect of when something in
software is scheduled to be dropped, it's easy (perhaps natural) for its
testing to diminish.
Where every one of my i386 machines suddenly stopped booting reliably
(after applying updates), it suggests to me that no testing of i386
systems was being done, at all.
I did report the bug, and they are working on it, but fixes so far just
avoid the crash during boot, and have no effect on the longer time
rebooting is taking.
So far, I haven't had to re-install other system partitions on the same
machine. I have been watching for that.
Debian does require more disk space than Lubuntu. And a Debian system
installed in a partition might have enough disk space to run, but not to
upgrade.
It is nice that Debian upgrades to later levels, though the process is
much more involved than it is in Ubuntu (Ubuntu upgrade is easier).
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Sincerely,
Aere
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