Modulo this particular bug affecting only your publication requests, "massive" documentation commits merely require some follow-through (to publication) as I've written about today here:
http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html#mass-change So the regularity with which you do this won't present any particular problems other than increasing the frequency of the subsequent pain you needto endure to walk mass-changes through to the live site. Small changes will normally induce small amounts of pain (modulo this particular bug). HTH >________________________________ > From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >To: lucene-net-dev@lucene.apache.org >Cc: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 6:30 PM >Subject: FW: trouble getting cms content to work correctly > > > >Took all day, but Joe was there babysitting and correcting things for us. > >Basically there is a bug in svn 1.6.17 that the CMS is based on, which is >making our commits a pain at the moment. Once that gets upgraded it should be >relatively smooth sailing. > >It won't help us though if we want still planning on updating massive amounts >of documentation on a regular basis. > > > >Thanks Joe, I can't thank you enough for the help today. > >~Prescott > > >________________________________ >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:49:48 -0800 >From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >To: geobmx...@hotmail.com > > >After some testing it appears that this performance >bug is fixed in svn 1.7, but the CMS is currently >running 1.6.17. I hope to have the host upgraded >within the next 30 days or so, but for now I still >recommend using the script. > > > > >>________________________________ >> From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >>To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:28 PM >>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >> >> >> >>Alright - sounds good >> >>Thanks again! >> >>~P >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:25:45 -0800 >>From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>To: geobmx...@hotmail.com >> >> >>I'm having some svn people look at the merge issues. >>Right now all I can suggest is that you publish using >>the publish.pl script on people.apache.org. It's taking >>me about 10 min total to carry that out, which is certainly >>too long given the nature of the changes it's merging, >>but I'll let you know what I find out. >> >> >> >> >>>________________________________ >>> From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >>>To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:13 PM >>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>> >>> >>> >>>It's butt ugly - all in one directory, 8206 files. I'd prefer a more natural >>>docs structure, but that's how it gets generated >>> >>>~P >>> >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:10:47 -0800 >>>From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>To: geobmx...@hotmail.com >>> >>> >>>Ok lemee kill it and use the publish.pl script >>>on people to see if I can get it to work right. >>>Just curious tho- about how many files do you >>>have within that docs dir- all in one dir I presume? >>> >>> >>>>________________________________ >>>> From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >>>>To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:08 PM >>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I'm thinking still merge funk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>________________________________ >>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:05:21 -0800 >>>>From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>To: geobmx...@hotmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>>Looks like it just completed. Hmm, go >>>>ahead and publish and lets try this one >>>>more time. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>________________________________ >>>>> From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> >>>>>To: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:02 PM >>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Yeah more merge funk. Leave it run for now, >>>>>but don't take any further action until you >>>>>hear from me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:59 PM >>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I hate to be the bearer of bad news... still taking days to publish (I'm >>>>>>not sure if there is a merge error or not) let me know I'll kill this >>>>>>quick >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:54:52 -0800 >>>>>>From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>To: geobmx...@hotmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Yeah try out the webgui and edit/commit/publish >>>>>>a minor change. It should take you no more than >>>>>>a minute or so total. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM >>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Man that sounds like a tool full of awesome! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Ok - so for the moment no new docs, a simple edit should be quick? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:48:40 -0800 >>>>>>>From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>To: geobmx...@hotmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Ok it's now fixed and your site should work as expected >>>>>>>at this point. I had to redact the lazy_publish feature >>>>>>>and reserve it for admins only because you don't actually >>>>>>>have permission to completely remove your publication site >>>>>>>from svn and that's not something I can offer without providing >>>>>>>you and every other committer with the ability to nuke >>>>>>>each other's entire sites. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>> From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>>To: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:20 PM >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Yeah well it's probably timing out somewhere along the line. >>>>>>>>I'm looking into your svn tree now to see if I can figure out >>>>>>>>what's going on. Basically the svn merge it's running is >>>>>>>>doing evil things. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:18 PM >>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Sorry, I'm not seeing merge errors, just seeing my browser waiting for >>>>>>>>>a response..I'll hold up >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:15:32 -0800 >>>>>>>>>From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>To: geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Stop Prescott when you get a merge error please. >>>>>>>>>There's something funky going on here that I need >>>>>>>>>to dig into and running publish again won't magically >>>>>>>>>fix it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:52 PM >>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Ah ok, I thought we were past that part - I'm losing track, just >>>>>>>>>>blinding taking orders at this point :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>~P >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:50:41 -0800 >>>>>>>>>>From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>>To: geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Yes as I explained before by using lazy_publish >>>>>>>>>>you will incur a performance hit the first time >>>>>>>>>>you subsequently publish normally. Once this >>>>>>>>>>completes things should behave properly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:48 PM >>>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>small change still seems to be taking longer than it should.. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:41:20 -0800 >>>>>>>>>>>From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>>>To: geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>No a regular publish this time please. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:39 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>I started the regular publish - but stopped that, should I do a >>>>>>>>>>>>lazy publish? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:36:57 -0800 >>>>>>>>>>>>From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; geobmx...@hotmail.com; >>>>>>>>>>>>site-...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Ok that seems to have gone thru cleanly this time. >>>>>>>>>>>>Now please make another minor edit to the site and >>>>>>>>>>>>let's flush things thru one last time. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>To: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>; "site-...@apache.org" >>>>>>>>>>>>><site-...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:30 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I had a bug in lazy_publish- please use that instead >>>>>>>>>>>>>when you get an error message indicating the merge >>>>>>>>>>>>>failed (like you just did). I'll keep an eye on things >>>>>>>>>>>>>while you do. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:49 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, that worked, site was all there - looking good. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I made a small change to the index.html page (to up the words >>>>>>>>>>>>>>that it shows from the blog roll). And hit publish - I seem to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>stuck (taking forever)... Not sure why that would occur? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:31:02 -0800 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: geobmx...@hotmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Seems to have worked, no? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:11 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Here's goes.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:56:11 -0800 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: geobmx...@hotmail.com; site-...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Try https://cms.apache.org/lucene.net/lazy_publish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Quick and dirty if it works ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:27 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm sorry :( Please by all means take a stab - I'll do nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>until I hear back. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:24:46 -0800 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: joe_schae...@yahoo.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; geobmx...@hotmail.com; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site-...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I watched your attempt to publish the site and you guys >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have managed to break svn merge with too many adds/deletes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the same paths within a single merge session. I suggest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you let me fix your site by nuking the publication tree >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and copying things over from staging. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > From: Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > To: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com>; "site-...@apache.org" <site-...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Cc: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:14 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> From: Prescott Nasser <geobmx...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> To: joe_schae...@yahoo.com; site-...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:58 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Subject: RE: trouble getting cms content to work correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Thanks Joe, I really appreciate your help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> My next task was to tackle that doc issue. I was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> experimenting with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > upload a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> tarball option hoping that would reduce the number of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> files in the repo, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> found out all it does is unpack it for me, saves me some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> bandwidth, but does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> to save the tree. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> A couple of weeks ago, I was making no changes to the docs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> (and there were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > no pending changes that I saw), and just making a minor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > change to the index page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > (to announce a new version of Lucene.Net) took FOREVER - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > same timeout issues. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > This lead me to believe, that regardless of the size of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > change, the number >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > of files will always be a PIA. But it seems like that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > shouldn't be the case? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hard to say what the cause of that delay was, but I can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > assure you it had little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > or nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > to do with the overall size of your site. The only O(N) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > algorithm involved is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > when the build >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > system svn up's the tree, and if the changes are already >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > present that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > process shouldn't take >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > more than a handful of seconds even for a 10GB site. Of course the actual time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > may fluctuate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wildly due to server conditions on the cms or svn host >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > systems, but there you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > go. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I just added some docs about this to the bottom of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > you might want to look over. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I will publish what we have now (need to fix a minor issue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> in the 2.9.4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > documentation first), and give a shot at making a minor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > change. Hopefully >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > publishing just a minor change in that case will be quick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > and painless. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Good luck. I suggest using the publish.pl script on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > people.apache.org and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > grabbing a cuppa coffee >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > while things progress. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >