Directly On 01/11/2010, at 14:13, "Nicholas Green" <nicholas.gr...@starnow.com> wrote:
> As an aside - does anyone else here use NHibernate.Search? > > For those that don't know it uses Lucene.NET under the hood, which is why I > ask. I'm curious to know how many people use Lucene.net directly and how many > people have it wrapped in something else. I suspect that most people are > using directly, but it would be good to know if I am the only one or not. > > > > Nicholas. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Noel Lysaght [mailto:lysag...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, 1 November 2010 1:46 a.m. > To: lucene-net-user@lucene.apache.org; gene...@lucene.apache.org > Cc: lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org > Subject: Re: Lucene.NET Community Status > > Hi Folks, count me in; I've being using Lucene.NET for over a year and have > found it to be the best Open Source .NET project we use in our company. > > I also think it would be a pity to move away from Apache and fork it > separately; Lucene is still maturing on the Java side of things very quickly > and it's feature set is becoming more and more useful; it would be a pity to > loose that momentum in the .NET side of things. > Anyway there are other options to make LUCENE.NET more .NET"ified" if > required, building additional libraries over the ported ones is just one > simple option. > > I have found very little reason to delve into the code other than to try and > understand what it is doing before I post issues to the mailing list. > Overall I have found it to very stable and mature. > > If you think I would be of benefit I would have 6-8 hours a week I can > contribute to the project if that is sufficient enough, I know we're all > fighting hard at the moment to keep our heads above water, so until things > calm back down again that about all I'd be able to manage. > > Anyway let me know if I'd be of use, I have strong C# skills and 20+ years > of development experience (obviously not all in C#). > > Kind Regards > Noel > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Frank Yu" <frank...@farpoint.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:44 AM > To: <lucene-net-user@lucene.apache.org>; <gene...@lucene.apache.org> > Cc: <lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org> > Subject: RE: Lucene.NET Community Status > >> Grand, >> >> I have been using the Lucene.net for a year now and it's a wonderful >> project. I would like to participate and contribute in order to keep it >> alive. Please count me in. >> >> Regards, >> >> Frank Yu >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsing...@apache.org] >> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:55 AM >> To: gene...@lucene.apache.org >> Cc: lucene-net-user@lucene.apache.org; lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Lucene.NET Community Status >> >> >> On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:52 AM, George Aroush wrote: >> >>> Hi Grant, >>> >>> I'm perfectly fine going back to incubation, that will help us to >>> re-validate this project and hopefully bring in some new blood. If we do >>> so, beside the current committers, who have had experience with >>> Lucene.Net >>> and the Apache way, who else do we bring in as new initial committers? >>> What >>> criteria do we use? Should we start with the current committers and in >>> 3-6 >>> months add / remove from the list? >> >> Here's the current list: >> George Aroush george @ aroush.net >> Işık YİĞİT (DIGY) digydigy @ gmail.com >> Doug Sale dsale @ myspace-inc.com >> Michael Garski mgarski @ myspace-inc.com >> >> Seeing how Doug, Isik and Michael haven't responded, you might want to >> track them down. I think it is fine to see if they still want to >> participate, but I'd look for other people who want to volunteer too. I'd >> simply solicit names and add them to the Wiki proposal. I don't think >> there is any requirement beyond that for incubation. What the project >> needs right now is people who are willing to step up and act now. >> >> >>> >>> Btw, sorry to post this to 3 different mailing list, but I hope by doing >>> so >>> it gets some extra visibility. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -- George >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsing...@apache.org] >>> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 6:59 AM >>> To: lucene-net-user@lucene.apache.org >>> Cc: gene...@lucene.apache.org; lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Lucene.NET Community Status >>> >>> >>> On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:19 PM, George Aroush wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Grant and all, >>>> >>>> I will get engaged with the project again. The way I see it, by the end >>> of >>>> the year, we must: >>>> >>>> 1) Clean up the website, and / or >>>> 2) Create an official release off the current trunk, and >>>> 3) Sometimes next year, port the most current version of Java Lucene. >>>> >>>> If by the end of the year, if we don't manage #1 and / or #2, Lucene.Net >>>> should be at the mercy of Apache's PMC. >>> >>> Please see the original email below. You also need new blood >>> contributing >>> to the project. One active committer for a project that has been around >>> this long is not enough. You also need a plan for self determination, >>> i.e. >>> to either become a top level project (i.e. lucenenet.apache.org or >>> something >>> like that) here at the ASF or for spinning out somewhere else under a new >>> name. This will be better for the project as you will then be guided by >>> a >>> PMC that is made up of the community members who have a stake in the >>> project, as opposed to now where you have a PMC, other than George, that >>> is >>> largely unaware of Lucene.NET and has no stake in Lucene.NET and is not >>> informed enough to make decisions about new committers, releases, etc. >>> and >>> likely isn't even capable of running Lucene.NET (I'm on a Mac, for >>> instance.) >>> >>> In fact, if I were active in this community, I would put the self >>> determination piece of the puzzle before all others because it has a >>> number >>> of effects that make 1, 2 and 3 easier for you. Personally, I would go >>> back >>> to the Incubator with a proposal for re-entry there that adds at least >>> 4-5 >>> new committers based on volunteers stepping up here. Once you have 4-5 >>> new >>> committers, then you have people who can do the work to get a release >>> out, >>> clean up the website and, most importantly, learn how developing code at >>> the >>> ASF works. You also then have the genesis of a PMC that makes for a >>> sustainable project and one where you can get 3 binding PMC votes for a >>> release (which you may not be able to do at the moment under Lucene >>> simply >>> because other than George, there are not any .NET programmers on the PMC >>> who >>> can verify the release is viable.) >>> >>> I can help you craft the proposal to go into the Incubator, as I feel it >>> is >>> part of my duties as Chair to see some resolve on this project, but >>> beyond >>> that I personally am not interested in being involved. I do think there >>> needs to be a .NET version of Lucene, though, so I wish you all the best >>> of >>> luck in keeping the project alive. >>> >>> -Grant >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> The key for our success is for the community working together -- we >>>> can't >>>> have few folks doing the heavy lifting of the project. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> -- George >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Grant Ingersoll [mailto:gsing...@apache.org] >>>> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 4:48 PM >>>> To: lucene-net-user@lucene.apache.org >>>> Cc: Lucene mailing list; lucene-net-...@lucene.apache.org >>>> Subject: Lucene.NET Community Status >>>> >>>> FYI: This message was sent to the lucene-net-...@lucene.a.o list on Oct. >>> 25 >>>> and elicited zero replies. I am sending it here in the hopes that some >>>> of >>>> you will step forward and either bring this project back to life via >>>> going >>>> back to the Incubator or we put it in the Apache Attic and someone can >>> take >>>> and maintain it somewhere else under a different name per the terms of >>>> the >>>> Apache License. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Hi .Netters, >>>> >>>> The Lucene PMC would like to ask everyone involved with .NET if they >>>> might >>>> chime in on the status of this project. There hasn't been a commit >>>> since >>>> July 2010 (and that one was trivial and there were only 2 in June) and >>> there >>>> seems to be very little activity on the dev mailing list. There also >>>> has >>>> not been a release in a long time. This was brought up at the last >>>> Lucene >>>> Board Report and it doesn't appear that there has been any action since. >>> A >>>> community should be able to withstand the loss of a single committer, >>>> but >>>> here it appears that there are no longer any committers willing to work >>>> on >>>> the project. >>>> >>>> In order to remedy the situation, we would like the following things to >>>> be >>>> done: >>>> 1. The community needs to show some (sustained) life. Not just in >>>> code, >>>> but in discussion of the project's future, etc. We would expect the >>>> committers to take a leadership role here. >>>> 2. The community needs to do a real release that is voted on by the PMC. >>>> 3. The webpage needs to be updated to reflect that those previous >>>> "source" >>>> releases are not real releases and should be taken down. Likewise, the >>> news >>>> section should not tout these non-releases as releases. The website >>> should >>>> also meet the PMC Branding guidelines recently sent out. >>>> 4. Identify some new blood for contributors/committers. Or the current >>>> committers need to step up more and take a lead role in the community. >>>> >>>> We would like to see action on all of these things by the end of this >>> year. >>>> If they can't be met, there will be one of the following actions: >>>> 1. Go back into Incubation >>>> 2. Go into the Apache Attic. If someone wants to take the code base and >>>> fork it out as a project somewhere else under a new name that does not >>>> use >>>> the Lucene trademark name (since that is owned by the ASF) than that is >>>> perfectly acceptable under the Apache license. >>>> >>>> If the conditions can be met, we think that the project should spin >>>> itself >>>> out as its own Top Level ASF project with its own PMC so that its future >>>> direction can be set by the stakeholders of the project and not by the >>>> larger Lucene project as a whole. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Grant Ingersoll >>>> On behalf of the Lucene PMC= >>>> >>> >>> -------------------------- >>> Grant Ingersoll >>> http://www.lucidimagination.com >>> >> >> -------------------------- >> Grant Ingersoll >> http://www.lucidimagination.com/ >> >> Search the Lucene ecosystem docs using Solr/Lucene: >> http://www.lucidimagination.com/search >> >> >> >
