Hi Torsten, On Aug 28, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote:
>>> The only other important question i would wonder about for graduation is >>> community building. The Lucy community still seems kind of small, so >>> there is a question to consider of wether being under the incubator is >>> (still) helping with the visibility of the project to grow the community, >>> or if near term community growth would be greater if Lucy graduated to a >>> TLP? >> >> I suspect that Lucy's incubating status hinders community growth. I don't >> think we are reaching many potential recruits via the Incubator we would not >> otherwise reach via other Apache channels. And I think that the incubation >> disclaimer plants a seed of doubt in the mind of each newcomer assessing Lucy >> and determining whether to get involved. > > I really doubt that the incubation status is a major factor that > hinders community growth. I am subscribed to the Lucy list for only a > few months (at best) so maybe I am missing something (do I?) but > frankly speaking as a ASF member I don't see Lucy ready as a TLP yet. > > How many committers are there? How many people subscribed to users? The # of committers and people subscribed to users@ (which includes being an ASF member as well) are things that can increase (or decrease) whether it's a TLP or not. > > http://markmail.org/search/?q=lucy#query:lucy%20list%3Aorg.apache.lucene.lucy-commits+page:1+state:facets > > IMO adding more languages (even as a proof of concept) will help to > bring people on board and help to grow the community. Just going TLP > will not lower this bar of entry. I don't think graduating based on > this hope is a good idea. I don't think that's the driving force (or hope at least in my mind) behind graduation. I started this thread because I think Lucy has fulfilled criteria that we set out to when we entered the Incubator: * Grow a community outside of Lucene, which includes electing new committers [check] * Make at least one ASF blessed release (which Lucy did not do in its years under the Lucene umbrella) [check] I still believe those are true. We can wait until we vet the final issues with the parser and JSON stuff, but those are all actionable, near-term things. Cheers, Chris ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: [email protected] WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
