Hehehe :-) Dobre go kaza :P~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teodor Georgiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: Re: lug-bg: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Tech] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Slackware vs Debian (was: Re: Quality of security assurance with Debian vs. RedHat vs. SuSE)]]
> > tyi lyzhe baba decata, che izqli iaicata :))) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrei Boyanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:04 PM > Subject: lug-bg: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Tech] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Slackware vs Debian (was: Re: Quality of security assurance with Debian vs. > RedHat vs. SuSE)]] > > > > Zdravejte, > > > > Edno sravnenie mejdu Debian i Slackware ot dosta otdavnashen potrebitel na > Linux (pochti ot nachaloto na syshtestvivaneto na Linux) > > > > rgds, > > > > Andrei > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Slackware vs Debian (was: Re: Quality of security assurance with > > Debian vs. RedHat vs. SuSE) > > From: Renщ Seindal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Patrick Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: Brad B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Resent-Message-ID: <PzPqHC.A.sVE.j3wB9@murphy> > > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/7606 > > List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help> > > List-Subscribe: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe> > > List-Unsubscribe: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe> > > Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:05:39 +0700 (ICT) > > X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by bap2.vn.auf id > g5C95gq03852 > > > > On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 08:49, Patrick Hsieh wrote: > > > Hello Brad B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > > > > > Agree. Can someone give any persuasive reason for me to say goodbye to > > > Slackware and embrace Debian? They differ a lot in their philosophy and > > > development model. Is there any guys switching from Slackware to Debian? > > > > I switched from Slackware to Debian about a year ago, and it is one of > > the best things I ever did. This is not to say I didn't like Slackware, > > because I did, but Debian has some distinct advantages once you get a > > hold of it. > > > > I came to Slackware from SLS, which was were I started back in 1992. > > There weren't so many distros around back then, and SLS was very good > > with floppies. Both SLS and later Slackware was very BSD like, which > > suited me as I came to Linux from a BSD/Mt.Xinu/SunOS background. > > > > So I used SLS/Slackware for some nine years. > > > > Compared to Slackware (as it was when I used it) Debian is heaven. > > > > * There are many more packages for Debian so the probability of > > finding a given piece of software already packaged is much > > higher. My /usr/local is continously diminishing in size as I > > can automate the maintenance of packages I previous had to > > install by hand. > > * Packages come pre-configured, practically always in a very > > sensible way, so the effort of adaptation of the installed > > software is minimal, very often just answering a few debconf > > questions. Some packages are more complicated, like INN, but > > in any case it runs sensibly out of the box so you point of > > departure is better. > > * Locating, downloading and installing a package is just one > > command, which is so much easier than in Slackware, where you > > have to locate and download the package by hand. > > * Dependencies are handled automatically by apt-get, so there is > > no time wasted hunting down all the prerequisites for a > > packages. Just "apt-get install package" and you'llbe asked > > if there are missing dependencies. > > * The division between stable, testing and unstable gives a very > > useful choice between several versions of the same package. > > With a bit of skill in pinning it is very easy to have mixed > > installs. Personally I use mostly woody with a touch of sid. > > * Day to day maintenance is a breeze. I have a weekly cronjob > > that does a "apt-get update; apt-get -s dist-upgrade" so I get > > a report of what's new every week. The actual upgrade is just > > "apt-get dist-upgrade" which I do by hand. > > * The upgrade path is incredibly smooth. With Slackware I > > normally kept two root file systems, and I installed > > alternately on one or the other, so I could always return to a > > working system if the install went wrong. Afterwards there > > was a period where I would move configuration files from the > > old system to the new. There was no safe way of moving from > > one major release to the next less of reinstalling. With > > Debian it is little more than changing the sources.list and > > doing an "apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade". I have > > noticed that an upgrade from potato to woody could require an > > "apt-get install apt dpkg dpkg-utils" before the dist-upgrade, > > because there had been some changes in functionality in apt > > and dpkg, but this is a minor issue compared to a complete > > reinstall. > > * Debian packaging is much more complicated than Slackware's, > > but also much more powerful. There is a rather steep learning > > curve, but once apprehended, almost everything can be achieved > > with just the three programs apt-get(8), apt-cache(8) and > > dpkg(8) from a commandline. Building you own packages is a > > bit complicated, but it can be learned in a day if necessary. > > > > Besides these practical things you get a community of devoted > > maintainers, a centralised bugtracking system, a social contract, > > written policies with a steadfast dedication to free software, > > numerous fora for user to user communication (email and web-based), ... > > > > Debian is free software incarnate. > > > > > > > > -- > > Renщ Seindal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.seindal.dk/rene/ > > > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? 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