neznam zashto no az vijdam samo chertichki - da ne bi da e morz ;-))

На чт, 2003-03-13 в 13:54, svetla записа:
> vijte puk moiata diskuskia s vuprosnite specove na mail.bg..: 
> 
> > Zdraveyte,  
> > 
> > ima edin vupros:
> > zashto nqmam access do smtp-to vi ot 212.36.16.1 ? 
> 
> Ïðè îáðàòíèÿò Âè ðåçîëâèíã îòãîâàðÿò ìíîãî IP 
> àäðåñè, ïî ñòàíäàðò òîâà
> íåòðÿáâà äà å òàêà. Ïëþñ òîâà ñòå èì ïèñàëè 
> èìåíàòà ñ ãëàâíè áóêâè, êîåòî
> íå å ïðåïîðú÷èòåëíî. Àêî òðÿáâà ùå Âè êàæåì 
> êàêâî íå Âè å íàðåä, ñïîðåä
> RFC. 
> 
> 
> > zashto nqmam access do smtp-to vi ot 212.36.16.1 ? 
> 
> Çàùîòî ðóòèíãà å êàëïàâ èëè ïî ïúòÿ èìàòå 
> íÿêàêúâ ôàéúðóîë. Ìîæå
> ïðîáëåìúò äà å è â Áîë.áã, ò.ê. ïúòÿ ìèíàâà ïðåç 
> òàì. Ìîæåòå äà ñå
> ñâúðæåòå ñ òÿõ è äà èì çàäàäåòå òîçè âúïðîñ, 
> àêî è âàøèÿ òðåéñ å òàêúâ,
> êàòî íàøèÿ. Ñàìî íå ìîãà äà ðàçáåðà çàùî òî÷íî 
> îò òàì ìèíàâà - íÿìàòå ëè
> äðóãà âðúçêà?!? 
> 
> $ traceroute 212.36.16.1
> traceroute to 212.36.16.1 (212.36.16.1), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
> 1  mx-balancer.mail.bg (193.201.172.113)  0.684 ms  0.193 ms  0.162 ms
> 2  bol2mail.mail.bg (193.201.172.26)  0.418 ms  0.326 ms  0.322 ms
> 3  bol2spnet.spnet.net (212.50.10.237)  1.465 ms  1.375 ms  2.734 ms
> 4  * * *
> 5  * 
> 
> Àêî è ïðè âàñ çàïèðà òàì çíà÷è å ÿñíî êúäå ñå 
> ãóáè âðúçêàòà. Èñêàì ñàìî
> äà äîïúëíÿ, ÷å öÿëàòà íè çîíà ãî âèæäà òàêà. 
> Âñè÷êè ìàøèíè ñòèãàò äî òàì.
> Ñïîðåä ìåí òîâà å íÿêàêúâ ôàéúðóîë, íî íå ñúì 
> óáåäåí, ÷å òîâà ñïèðà
> ïîùàòà. Àêî èçïîëçâàòå íÿêàêúâ ÍÀÒ ìîæå äà 
> èäâà îò äðóã àäðåñ äî íàñ. 
> 
> 
> > pozvoleno e i oshte kak ... 
> 
> Äà - ïîçâîëåíî å, íî ÃÎÐÅÙÎ íå ñå ïðåïîðú÷âà - 
> ùå èçïîëçâàì öèòàò îò
> òîâà, êîåòî ñòå íè èçïðàòèëè: "But that doesn't mean 
> applications will
> pay attention. That's were the majority of the problem lies...". Ùå
> äîáàâÿ è òîâà, ÷å íÿêîè âåðñèè íà DJBDNS (äà, 
> ñúãëàñåí ñúì - íå âñè÷êè)
> ñ÷èòàò ðåçîëâèíãà çà íåâàëèäåí è íå âðúùàò 
> íèùî â òàêúâ ñëó÷àé. È òîâà íå
> å íèòî ñëó÷àéíî, íèòî å ãðåøêà.  ñëåäâàùèòå 
> âåðñèè å ïðîìåíåíî, ïðîñòî
> çàðàäè òàêèâà êàòî âàñ, êîèòî èñêàò äà ðàáîòÿò 
> íà ãðàíèöèòå íà âúçìîæíîòî
> è èçâúí ãðàíèöèòå íà äîïóñòèìîòî. Èíòåðåñíî å 
> äà ñå îòáåëåæè, ÷å
> ôóíêöèÿòà gethostbyname() (àêî íå ãðåøà òàêà áåøå) 
> ñúùî àìà õè÷ íå ñå
> èíòåðåñóâà îò äðóãèòå PTR. À 90% îò ïðèëîæåíèÿòà 
> èçïîëçâàò òúêìî íåÿ. È
> íèêîé íå ñå å çàñèëèë äà ãè îïðàâÿ ñàìî çàùîòî 
> âèå ñìÿòàòå, ÷å ïîíåæå å
> ðàçðåøåíî, òà òðÿáâà äà ñå ïîëçâà. 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Teodor Georgiev writes: 
> 
> >  
> > 
> > ti pogledni che ITD ne sa mu dali prava vyrhu zonata.
> > Posochili sa tehnite nameserveri. 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Vesselin Kolev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: lug-bg: mail.bg 
> > 
> > 
> >> Prichinata poradi koiato stava tova, e che imeto na host, koeto se
> >> predostavia pri ustanoviavaneto na sesiata i zadavneto na EHLO
> >> posledvano ot ime n host, ne syvpada s in-addr.arpa izvlechenoto
> >> ime na tvoia mail server. T.e. vmesto mano.pazarjik.com, ti
> >> izprashtash dns.pazarjik.com. 
> >>
> >> Eto zatova na stava. 
> >>
> >> Prosto ukazhi v sendmaila si, che pylnoto kvalificirano ime na
> >> tvoia host e mano.pazardjik.com i vsichko shte byde nared. Ili
> >> pyk ukazhi v zonata na 125.145.213.in-addr.arpa 
> >>
> >> 130   PTR  dns.pazardjik.com. 
> >>
> >> i taka niama da promeniash imeto zadavano ot sendmail pri
> >> izprashtane na EHLO. 
> >>
> >> Procheti i RFC 821. Interesno e! 
> >>
> >>    Pozdravi
> >>       Vesselin Kolev
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Marian Popov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:17 PM
> >> Subject: lug-bg: mail.bg 
> >>
> >>
> >> > Zdraveite !
> >> >
> >> > Niakoi ima li ideia zashto ne moga da prashtam mail
> >> > kym mail.bg ? Predi imashe problem che ne mi se
> >> > resolve-ashe adresa ot koito prashtam.
> >> > Ama sega se resolve i ne znam kakvo stava.
> >> >
> >> > The original message was received at Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:02:35 +0200
> >> > from mano.pazardjik.com [213.145.125.130]
> >> >
> >> >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >     (reason: 550 <dns.pazardjik.com>: Helo command rejected: [BG]
> >> npenpameme
> >> > moBa nucMo Ha gocmaB4uka cu; [EN] Pl...ICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO RFC-821
> >> > SECTION 3.5 BECAUSE IT COULD NOT BE RESOLVED. See http://mail.bg/mta)
> >> >
> >> >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> >> > ... while talking to mx1.mail.bg.:
> >> > >>> HELO dns.pazardjik.com
> >> > <<< 550 <dns.pazardjik.com>: Helo command rejected: [BG] npenpameme moBa
> >> > nucMo Ha gocmaB4uka cu; [EN] Please forward this mail to your ISP; [->]
> >> YOUR
> >> > SERVER pazardjik.com[213.145.125.2] SENDS WRONG EHLO
> > "dns.pazardjik.com",
> >> > WHICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO RFC-821 SECTION 3.5 BECAUSE IT COULD NOT BE
> >> > RESOLVED. See http://mail.bg/mta
> >> > ... while talking to mx2.mail.bg.:
> >> > >>> HELO dns.pazardjik.com
> >> > <<< 550 <dns.pazardjik.com>: Helo command rejected: [BG] npenpameme moBa
> >> > nucMo Ha gocmaB4uka cu; [EN] Please forward this mail to your ISP; [->]
> >> YOUR
> >> > SERVER pazardjik.com[213.145.125.2] SENDS WRONG EHLO
> > "dns.pazardjik.com",
> >> > WHICH DOES NOT CONFORM TO RFC-821 SECTION 3.5 BECAUSE IT COULD NOT BE
> >> > RESOLVED. See http://mail.bg/mta
> >> > 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Marian Popov
> >> > Siterm Engeneering Ltd.
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
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