If am not mistaken isnt calling East Africa utmost Ushs 1000 on the MTN
network? Can some one please post the rates?

Last time I heard, calling another network in Tz was the equivalent of an
International call :-(

W

> Wire,
>
> there's paying for air time in dollars and then paying  exorbitant fees.
> A 5,000 TZs card(approx 9,000 UGX) would last me 5 minutes calling a
> mobile in Uganda.
> Read: opportunity!
> when can we set up in TZ ?
> What's the latest on comparison for international call rates? that where
>  the beef lies
>
> Best Regards
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> Lunghabo James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 12-06-04 01:16 PM
> Please respond to lug
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>         To:     <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>         Subject:        Re: lug_: MTN new rates, they are back at Number
> 1
>
>
> Guys
>
> I am actually excited thru the roof for this new MTN product. This is
> now what I can call a "REAL SERVICE". I remember meeting some MTN staff
> just after the Yello Go tariff introductions and they seemed aloof as
> regards the public perceptions. One of them arrogantly told me that "the
> market just does not understand".
>
> Anyhow I am happy that logic has overridden arrogance and now am tempted
> to get an MTN line. Way to go MTN thanks for being responsive to the
> needs of the customer. Jeez I wish the Ugandan scenario could be
> replicated in Tanzania. Clients are suffering with exhorbitant bills
> down there, imagine untill about a month ago, Vodacom clients were
> paying for airtime in dollars.
>
> W
>
>> We really have to keep this list to Linux stuff but this evening I
>> picked up the paper and could not but notice the huge full page add
>> from MTN.  They also sent me an SMS (three actually, I think someone
>> was trying to make a point :=) :=)).  And since I have been roasted by
>> many in MTN for my emails, I owe them one on their new move.  As usual
>> DO NOT FORWARD this mail.
>>
>> My first thoughts were that this is akin to the OMO add that is
>> playing on radio these days.  The one with the little girl and her
>> mother where the little girl is saying that the new product is "better
>> than OMO" and in the end the new product is New Improved OMO.
>>
>> So now we have "Its better than YelloGo" its..... "its new improved
>> YellowMax".  Although I am so confused by the names YellowGo, PayGo,
>> YellowMax.  Just a suggestion I would give to all networks. have two
>> products Wanainchi and Baraka or something that relates to the society
>> as a whole.  By now everyone knows its a pre-paid system and the
>> consumer really cares about the rates and does not care about the
>> product description.  This is shown by users calling the product on
>> all networks "pay as you go".
>>
>> An old adage says "It takes a big man to admit he is wrong".  I take
>> my hat off to MTN for admitting they were wrong.  After all if they
>> were not wrong, we would not have the wonderful rate change.
>>
>> After the firefighting (to the point of putting the COO on Capital
>> Radio to defend the rate increase) we now have the rates they should
>> have announced in the first place.  THANK YOU MTN.  Below are my new
>> rate comparisons for all three networks (using my spending figures so
>> you plug in yours and see what happens for you).
>>
>> What I would really like is for MTN to run a full page add saying that
>> it is now cheaper to call Celtel from MTN than from Celtel and start a
>> rate war that will stop only when all local calls on all networks are
>> free :=).
>>
>> Rate Analysis (peak rates only):
>> MTN staff please excuse me if I get the product names wrong.  The
>> message of the rates will still get through!
>>
>> Firstly we assume that no one on any network calls anybody on another
>> network.
>>
>> We have already seen how with MTN before I used to spend 210,000/= per
>> month and get 650 minutes of airtime.
>>
>> Now with the new lower PayGo I would spend 220,000/= per month and get
>> 714 minutes (at 280/= per minute with 20,000/= as the monthly fee) If
>> I use YellowMax (no monthly fee) 220,000/= per month gets me 666  mins
>> (at 330/= per minute)
>>
>> With CELTEL If I use the same baseline figure I would spend 220,000/>
>> per month and get 647 mins (at 340/= per min)
>>
>> On Mango, for either use Mango Standard (at a rate of 340/= per min)
>> or Mango Xtra (at a rate of 320/= per 45 seconds which works out to
>> 320*60/45 = 426/= per min).
>>
>> So Mango Standard would have me spend 220,000/= per month and get 647
>> mins
>> Mango Xtra would have me spend 220,000/= per month and get
>> approximately 516 mins
>>
>> Now we use MY real calling patterns (peak rates assumed for all
>> networks).
>>
>> As stated in the earlier email, this phone is for business.  My
>> self-analyzed calling pattern shows that about 70-80% of my calls are
>> on the MTN network with the rest on other networks.
>>
>> So I took the average rate for calling other networks (for each
>> network separately) and put in the numbers and here is what I get.
>>
>> At 80% calls to MTN (spending 220,000/= per month.  80% is my worst
>> case scenario)
>>
>> MTN PayGo: I spend 160,000/= at 280 = 571 mins and then 40,000/= at
>> 330/= gives 121 mins for a total of 692 mins (remember only 200,000/>
>> on airtime and 20,000 on monthly fees)
>>
>> MTN YellowMax: I spend I spend the same rate for all networks so the
>> split does not matter so it is still 220,000/= giving me 666 mins at
>> 330/= per minute.
>>
>> Celtel: Since one rate to all networks I still get 647 mins for my
>> 220,000/>
>> Mango Standard: 176,000/= at 420 gives 419 mins plus 44,000/= at ((430
>> + 320) /2) = 375 gives 117 mins for a total of 536 mins
>>
>> Final conclusion is that for my calling patterns, the NEW MTN rates
>> now ensure that I actually spend significantly more time talking than
>> I did before for the same price. A true saving!  In addition for my
>> calling pattern, MTN are now the cheapest/pocket-friendly cellular
>> provider in Uganda.  Now if they could get their data working for pay
>> as you go ... like the other networks do (and at the talk rates ...
>> like the other networks do), I would be very very happy.
>>
>> I am not going to do any more of these cellular analysis things.  Even
>> if everyone else drops their rates.  I am scared I will soon be asked
>> to include the discount rates on the weekends for each network.
>>
>> The logic for me is unbeatable.  My money is going back to MTN.
>>
>> Kiggs
>>
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