On Friday 23 July 2004 13:39, Wire James wrote:
> Dorothy
>
> You said
>
> > In terms of actions, are there members on this list, who would be
> > interested in developing collaborative projects for fourth year EE
> > projects (typically a 9-month project)? If yes, I would greatly
> > appreciate hearing from you.
>
> I dont think it is as simple as that. There needs to be a wholistic
> approach. In terms of projects that we would like to see University guys
> doing, there are lots and lots. However this needs to be integrated into
> the entire curriculum of the faculty plus changing mindsets of both the
> lecturers and students and probably some other factors I am not able to
> mention right now.
A mindset change in students has *already* began. I earlier tried a "who"
command to lug to see how many fellow students are subscribed to this list
but Kiggs disabled it (which is a good thing - thwarts spammers somewhat).
But other than that, many of the Employers on this list can say they have a
huger portion of their task force being campus students.
To be fair, a mind set change in *some* lecturers has changed. I clearly
remember some course units in which the sylabus was changed slightly to
better match the needs of today. I'll refrain from naming names, because I'll
imply a lot by exclusion and I'm still a student....:-D
>
> Why dont you think it over and show some one like me how participation in
> a collaborative effect is bound to be effected and the benefits it will
> have at the end of de day to the student, university and private sector.
Right on the *money*. At the end of the day, some students have resold their
projects to whoever they implemented it for in the first place. I'm not sure
about what the copyright rules on campus have to say about this, but in most
cases, this is a fight by the student hardly involving the University.
At the end of the day, probably what Mr. Ntege B has suggested would be the
best course. If a student knows their future employer might be one of the
people reviewing their project ... then... (also I hope someone from the Uni
can comment on the rights to the projects *after* they've been presented..
can they be used commercially?)
More so, much as more and more of the lecturers on campus are people actively
doing something in the "real" world, a few of them have problems keeping up
with certain trends - probably because of their busy schedules.
(No I'm not making this up, I had to spend 15 minutes of my "10 minute
presentation" trying to explain what Mambo and other content management
systems do. - Guess I needed to add something to my background).
The point here is if we have a huger range of people looking at project
proposals, we'd have a better filtering of what projects should and should
not be done. e.g someone did a project on security using vlans (configured on
a cisco switch) because her original project (running remote system admin
commands on a linux box like checking for/ restarting services, pinging
critical network nodes etc) was rejected because it looked too similar to
someone who did remote receipt management since they both used sms to
transmit. Ok, the data transmission is basically the same, but choice of
alternate project was.......
Sooo, (if you've read this long), how many people would be contacting Atwib ||
Josephine and what would be their requests from MUK's side [I think I
suggested in my project that the Institute could consider having the project
span the whole of the final year] and probably someone from MUK could post a
copy of their sylabus and the rest of the community suggest modifications
(since the goal is to produce people employable by the community - I think).
I.E Are we going to seriously try to add more momentum to the change or are we
going to keep discussing what "should('ve)" been done?
Just my 2 cents (ok maybe more than that. :-D )
>
> Wire
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