Good things come to those who wait, or in this case, can bargain the hardest.
On Apr 9, 2005 2:38 PM, Ronny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Henry ISP's these days can give you all what you want as long as you got > the Dimes ask how much Campus(MUK ) is getting I wonder what they use it > for :-D .With these new cheap WAN tech mushrooming up .Give it 1 year you > will have 128K+ at 200K a month.We pray our Telecoms cut thier prices for > the pipes leave alone the internet Bandwidth.Question who of the Telecoms > offers xDSL services in UG? > Ronny > > > henry wrote: > > No worries kurup > theres no legal angle to it > besides as far as ISP loyalty is concerned > We nether face east nor west > we consumers face forward > gud de > > Hmk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hari Kurup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 10:11 AM > Subject: Re: [LUG] GMAIl now at 2GB > > > > > Henry, maybe I needed to have put a disclaimer: Any opinions expressed > or implied by me do not neessarily reflect the views of Infocom or its > management. > But that said, I have not seen anyone on this list from that ISP you are > on.... except for one sympathiser (names withheld). :-) > Have a nice weekend. > > Kurup > > > Henry wrote: > > > > Ok I get it > ISPs wont give us the broadband we want unless we justify the need to > > them > > > > They will even go so far as to tell us how much we can have and what we > cannot afford ;-) > Sounds a lil like the fixed lines of a utl a couple of years ago > But all in good spirit > I now realize it takes a combined effort from several players > And that takes for a consumer "culture" to develop > > Enter the universities > Put broadband at the universities ( there are so many nowadays!) > They will want it for the rest of their working lives > And a broadband culture will be born. > > Hmk > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Tinka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:16 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Henry > Subject: Re: [LUG] GMAIl now at 2GB > > On Friday 08 April 2005 09:50, Henry wrote: > > > > > > And it is not cheap, even if it is local bandwidth. A reasonably clear > > > > audio stream (forget video) needs like 32Kbps for each person > streaming. > > > > Not necessarily, depends on what codec you use (which would depend on > > what > > > > hardware you use). In some cases, the right player can help a great deal. > > Quality is getting better with smaller pipes. > > > > > > Ive learnt that Cheap is a relative term mfriend > The user decides which conveniences are worth paying for > Besides, you don't halt a project to build a 4 star hotel just because > there are cheaper alternatives ;-) > > > > > > Who pays for it and why would someone pay anyway when he can pick it > > > > freely on his radio > > 1- An available forum for specialized channels > Eg: click on a button and get a replay for the capital gang show you > > > > missed > > This is on demand content - which is how the Internet works today. A > > website > > > > will be there today, tomorrow and the next day, nothing new. > > Putting up the audio clip may not cost the radio stations much, depending > > on > > > > whether they are offering it as a download or a stream. Besides, lots of > streaming/hosting companies in the developed world can offer you a T-1 > connection for your content for less than $50/month. > > > > > > 2 - bcuz its there! Why shouldn't I use the company Bandwidth to view > > > > clips > > > > > of a local football match while the boss accesses footage of his > > marketing > > > > > seminars, ( while we work ) > > > > Because like Kurup said, it costs your company. If the game you missed is > > on > > > > an international server, your company (and your provider) have to expend > expensive international capacity to bring the game to your PC. > > If the game were on a local server, well, that's another thing. > > ISP's are wary of "greedy customers", and may penalize your company on > > your > > > > behalf for abuse of service. But I digress... > > Mark. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > > > Of > > > > > Hari Kurup > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:58 AM > To: Linux Users Group Uganda > Subject: Re: [LUG] GMAIl now at 2GB > > On Apr 7, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Henry wrote: > > > > > Isnt the onus on the providers to show the people what they can do > with the > service > Way the mobile operators keep telling us how we can check for the > weather > and stuff on our fons? > > Eg: Don't you think radio/ tv operators would love for people to stream > local talk shows onto their computers at home and office ? > But who would dare to venture into such a "complex" process unless > they had > someone from MTN, infocom .. to hold their hand for the first few > sessions > > > > They radio/tv operators certainly would be interested. > But as opposed to picking the signal off air with your TV or radio for > free, streaming requires bandwidth. > And it is not cheap, even if it is local bandwidth. A reasonably clear > audio stream (forget video) needs like 32Kbps for each person > streaming. > Who pays for it and why would someone pay anyway when he can pick it > freely on his radio. > > > Kurup > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > -- > *************************************************************************** > / ''We can't become what we need to be by remaining what we are''\ > \ ,, ,,/ > *************************************************************************** > > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > -- Jean-Francois Laforest Senior Network Engineer Wavexpress, Inc. _______________________________________________ LUG mailing list [email protected] http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
