now am a little confused. mr. guido you have alot of programming experience; from my understanding in the programmers' world fashion rules. i just went through some archives on the stuff and before it was C, then C++,then java, now perl even the concepts change alot. so mr. guido and company wouldn't knowing all of the above be the other alternative or best alternative or route to being 'de best' programmer as rroonie says?
just found out today that huge chunks of yahoo(online stores, mail services and others) are driven by python and Lisp code. so more questions huh! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Send LUG mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Python, Perl,C++ or Both of the 3 (joachim > Gwoke) > 2. Tiger (OS X) on x86 (Kiggundu Mukasa) > 3. Re: Beta Release: cwhoisd Version 0.9.3 > (Begumisa Gerald M) > 4. Re: Python, Perl,C++ or Both of the 3 ;-)) > (Begumisa Gerald M) > 5. Re: Python, Perl,C++ or Both of the 3 ;-)) > (Guido Sohne) > 6. Re: Python, Perl,C++ or Both of the 3 ;-)) > (RONNY) > > From: joachim Gwoke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:58:52 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: [LUG] Re: Python, Perl,C++ or Both of the 3 > > i asked a few people online and in here in town and > they tell me each has its strengths or specialities. > some guys online even insist that you MUST have > python,perl,C/C++, java, and awk knowledge to be > versatile in your work especially when dealing with > unix-like environments. > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Send LUG mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide > Web, > > visit > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > > 'help' to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > > is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Python, Perl,C++ or Both of the 3 ;-)) > > (Rroonniiee) > > 2. Tiger (OS X) on x86 (Kiggundu Mukasa) > > 3. Re: Beta Release: cwhoisd Version 0.9.3 > (Paul > > Bagyenda) > > 4. Re: Python, Perl,C++ or Both of the 3 ;-)) > > (Begumisa Gerald M) > > 5. Re: Beta Release: cwhoisd Version 0.9.3 > > (Kiggundu Mukasa) > > > From: Rroonniiee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > CC: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> > > To: Begumisa Gerald M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 12:04:41 +0300 > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Python, Perl,C++ or Both of the > 3 > > ;-)) > > > > Hmmm so should I say you have to be familiar with > > the trio just incase ? > > :-) > > Ronny > > > > Begumisa Gerald M wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Rroonniiee wrote: > > > > Hi all just a quick question.What would you > > advise if asked, "of the > > > > 3 which one do u admire?" > > > > > >I share Ezra's opinion. It really depends on the > > scenario. There are a > > >number of factors to consider, some factors as > > simple as "time" and some > > >as complicated as "scalability" ;-) > > > > > > > > >Rgds, > > >Gerald. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Kiggundu Mukasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Linux Users Group Ug." <[email protected]> > > Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:28:30 +0300 > > Subject: [LUG] Tiger (OS X) on x86 > > > > > > Its gotten into the wild! > > > > Go here > > http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3368775 > > And use your favourite torrent to download it. > > > > Using Windoze only software to do install > > http://www.tech-recipes.com/apple_mac_tips964.html > > > > I would hurry before it goes down. Apple has > started > > to sue! > > > > Kiggs > > > > > > **************** > > ***************************** > > Kiggundu Mukasa # Computer Network > > Consultancy### > > KYM-NET LTD. # Intranets & > > Internet Solutions# > > Plot 80 Kanjokya Street > > P.O. Box 24284 Kampala, Uganda > > Tel: +256 77 972255 > > +256 71 221141 > > Fax: +256 31 262122 > > > ***************************************************************** > > > > > From: Paul Bagyenda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> > > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 09:37:17 +0300 > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Beta Release: cwhoisd Version > > 0.9.3 > > > > Excellent contribution to the open source > community! > > > > Are we to assume this is what powers the Ug > whois > > database? > > > > P. > > > > > > On Aug 20, 2005, at 19:18, Begumisa Gerald M > wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > My sincere apologies to folks that have read > this > > on AfNOG. Maybe > > > slightly off-topic but this software is open > > source, it runs on > > > Linux and > > > was developed in Uganda. > > > > > > Hope some "geeks" over here can check it out. > > We'd be glad to hear > > > from > > > you. > > > > > > Following are brief notes / instructions on how > to > > get it. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Selected Excerpts from the README and CREDITS > > files: > > > > > > [README] > > > What is cwhoisd? > > > > > > cwhoisd is a highly scalable, fast, > > lightweight C/C++ > > > daemon which > > > aims to implement most of the RFC1834 > > whois server > > > specification. > > > It has built-in support for the MySQL > > database engine and > > > is not > > > tied to any specific table structure > > making it a highly > > > viable and > > > extremely easy-to-setup option in > > situations where there is an > > > already existing database. Nonetheless, > > cwhoisd comes with a > > > proposed table structure for a Whois > > database. > > > > > > cwhoisd features a powerful set of > Access > > Control List > > > rules which > > > administrators may use tightly control > > access to the server > > > when > > > accessible by the general Internet, on a > > per-ip basis. > > > These may > > > be on a per-client or global basis. > > Nonetheless, by building > > > cwhoisd with the "default allow" mode, > > cwhoisd may operate > > > like > > > any completely open whois server. > > > > > > A typical setup might be: > > > > > > o Limit the query rate of a whose IP > is > > XX.YY.ZZ.AA to 100 > > > requests per second. > > > > > > o Delay this client to enforce the > rate > > if they exceed this > === message truncated ===> From: Kiggundu Mukasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Linux Users Group Ug." <[email protected]> > Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:58:26 +0300 > Subject: [LUG] Tiger (OS X) on x86 > > > Its gotten into the wild! > > Go here > http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3368775 > And use your favourite torrent to download it. > > Using Windoze only software to do install > http://www.tech-recipes.com/apple_mac_tips964.html > > I would hurry before it goes down. Apple has started > to sue! > > Kiggs > > > **************** > ***************************** > Kiggundu Mukasa # Computer Network > Consultancy### > KYM-NET LTD. # Intranets & > Internet Solutions# > Plot 80 Kanjokya Street > P.O. Box 24284 Kampala, Uganda > Tel: +256 77 972255 > +256 71 221141 > Fax: +256 31 262122 > ***************************************************************** > > > From: Begumisa Gerald M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:04:18 +0300 (EAT) > Subject: Re: [LUG] Beta Release: cwhoisd Version > 0.9.3 > > On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, Paul Bagyenda wrote: > > Excellent contribution to the open source > community! > > Thank you! > > > > > Are we to assume this is what powers the Ug > whois database? > > Yes, that is correct. However, we're in the > finishing stages of tightly > integrating it with the online registry so that the > information in the > whois database can be made a better reflection of > the information in our > main registry database. > > Rgds, > Gerald. > > > From: Begumisa Gerald M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> > To: Rroonniiee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:07:15 +0300 (EAT) > Subject: Re: [LUG] Python, Perl,C++ or Both of the 3 > ;-)) > > On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Rroonniiee wrote: > > Hmmm so should I say you have to be familiar > with the trio just > > I've used C++ & PERL but have no practical > experience with Python. (I > have only theoretical experience ;-). > > > Regards, > Gerald. > > > From: Guido Sohne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Linux Users Group Uganda > <[email protected]> > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 18:51:29 +0000 > Subject: Re: [LUG] Python, Perl,C++ or Both of the 3 > ;-)) > > Python is the most conceptually elegant and clean > one of the lot. > Maybe a little *too* clean. I like to read Python > code, but I don't > like to write it. However, when I do write Python > code, it tends to > be an enjoyable experience. > > Perl is the Swiss army knife. It does everything and > then some. If > you want to do it, Perl can do it, in many more ways > than you can > ever imagine. I hate reading Perl code, especially > when it is someone > else's Perl code. I don't like my own Perl code > either. What I > dislike most about Perl is the overabundance of > special little > features. But they sure do come in handy when you > need then, which is > where the whole problem with Perl is. Yes, it can do > the job, but do > you really know how to do it? > > I gave up on C++ the day I took a look at Boost, a > C++ library that > claims to be the world's 'best'. The header files > are full of little > tricks and techniques to make the code work on > different compilers. > The problem with C++ starts when you have finished > developing your > application. It works, it is debugged and it's > perfect. Moving to a > new compiler, or to a new operating system > jeopardizes all that work > because there is no one C++ language, even though > there is a 'standard'. > > C++ is also just too complicated. Layers of warts > upon warts. It > tries to be like Perl without being as cool as Perl > - too many things > are in the language. C++ is an abomination and a sin > in the eyes of > God. Objective C is a much nicer language that > should have instead > been adopted but was not. I'd rather write in C than > in C++ and I > guess that says a lot ... > > I think I'd choose Perl ... but with a guilty > conscience. > > -- G. > > On Aug 19, 2005, at 4:51 AM, Rroonniiee wrote: > > > Hi all just a quick question.What would you advise > if asked, "of > > the 3 which one do u admire?" ;-) > > Thanks > > Ronny > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LUG mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > From: RONNY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> > To: Guido Sohne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 08:34:51 +0300 > Subject: Re: [LUG] Python, Perl,C++ or Both of the 3 > ;-)) > > > Thanks .But if you want to be "de best" what would > you recomend ? :-\ > Seen most *NIX OS's like Redhat and buddies powered > by Python code > ,should I assume it's de best? "Didn't say it's > best" :-) > Guido Sohne wrote: > > > Python is the most conceptually elegant and clean > one of the lot. > > Maybe a little *too* clean. I like to read Python > code, but I don't > > like to write it. However, when I do write Python > code, it tends to be > > an enjoyable experience. > > > > Perl is the Swiss army knife. It does everything > and then some. If you > > want to do it, Perl can do it, in many more ways > than you can ever > > imagine. I hate reading Perl code, especially when > it is someone > > else's Perl code. I don't like my own Perl code > either. What I dislike > > most about Perl is the overabundance of special > little features. But > > they sure do come in handy when you need then, > which is where the > > whole problem with Perl is. Yes, it can do the > job, but do you really > > know how to do it? > > > > I gave up on C++ the day I took a look at Boost, a > C++ library that > > claims to be the world's 'best'. The header files > are full of little > > tricks and techniques to make the code work on > different compilers. > > The problem with C++ starts when you have finished > developing your > > application. It works, it is debugged and it's > perfect. Moving to a > > new compiler, or to a new operating system > jeopardizes all that work > > because there is no one C++ language, even though > there is a 'standard'. > > > > C++ is also just too complicated. Layers of warts > upon warts. It tries > > to be like Perl without being as cool as Perl - > too many things are in > > the language. C++ is an abomination and a sin in > the eyes of God. > > Objective C is a much nicer language that should > have instead been > > adopted but was not. I'd rather write in C than in > C++ and I guess > > that says a lot ... > > > > I think I'd choose Perl ... but with a guilty > conscience. > > > > -- G. > > > > On Aug 19, 2005, at 4:51 AM, Rroonniiee wrote: > > > >> Hi all just a quick question.What would you > advise if asked, "of the > >> 3 which one do u admire?" ;-) > >> Thanks > >> Ronny > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> LUG mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >> %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs _______________________________________________ LUG mailing list [email protected] http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
