You're right no doubt, and summarise well all the standard material.
My point is that for each Joomla, there are thousands others who
really didn't get past Go. And I suspect Joomla would have made more
money if their software were closed source. So the hype needs
subjecting to a couple of reality checks. Open Source (sadly)
encourages a huge amount of free-loading. Which would be OK if there
were enough momentum in the movement... I'm saying a certain
slackening is discernible. (Yes, I've been around long enough to know!)
Still, the PostgreSQL guys have shown they still have SERIOUS
momentum. Even without a business model to worry about.
P.
Ps. As for UB41, the only important question is whether to go for the
25k or 120k tickets. My experience with MTN-organised shindigs like
this is that it is more efficient to go with the former, add to that
the odd 5k greaser for the guard to get your date a chair!
On Feb 05, 2008, at 19:11, Reinier Battenberg wrote:
The business model works best for companies who need to opensource
tools. So,
Yahoo will contribute to freebsd, google to python, mountbatten to
Joomla!
(just to name a few random samples ;-)
The Joomla! foundation is a not for profit, however, they have
created one of
the most popular CMS systems in the world. So, there is no
businessmodel for
Joomla! Inc, as it is just non-existent.
There is a business model for all the individuals working on the
core. I guess
their consultancy fees are just slightly higher than the ones paid
in the
Kampala market.
They bring their toolbox (Joomla) to a job, and start hacking a
website. Who
would do better than they do? So, they get the highest fee. And in
the time
that they are not flying across the globe presenting Joomla! 1.5, they
actually write code. Sounds like a nice individual business model to
me.
The business models for companies with an opensource package is a
bit similar.
Who would you want to buy service of? Canonical, MySQL, eh, Sun,
Alfresco,
etc. It seems to be worth something to be the maintainer of a big
open source
project.
Where the opensource market is definitly weaker is in niches, like
yours.
Where specialized software is required, opensource doesnt seem to
get a real
foothold. Wether that be ERP, SMSC's or other small markets, it
seems much
harder. Apparently open source needs volume.
my 2 cents.
On Tuesday 05 February 2008 13:03:05 P. A. Bagyenda wrote:
Bait no doubt :-)
My 'issues' are different. Apart from business models being few and
successes, in truth, even fewer, there is the small matter of the
largely non-existent community participation that is trumpeted as one
of the key advantages of Open Source. What is the magnitude in real
terms? I mean what percentage of 'participants' in these projects
really add value? That to me is one of the biggest disappointments.
That the vast majority, even when they could do otherwise, are
content
to merely consume. I don't see any new Linuxes, or GCCs, or VIs, or
Mozillas... Surely it can't be that we've run tools to (re-)create as
open source, can it?
Time to get off the high horse. PostgreSQL benchmarks: very
interesting.
P.
On Feb 05, 2008, at 11:05, Ernest - (AfriNIC) wrote:
P. A. Bagyenda wrote thus on 2/5/08 11:02 AM:
Just when one is starting to lose one's faith in this
whole Open Source religion
Why lose interest? Open-source is becoming a perfectly lucrative
business.
Hatch an idea, get the community involved to perfect it, sell it for
billions of USD to the competition and go buy yourself a villa in
hawaai.
Try it with your butterfly, parlix and zorilla - you may never need
to code again Paul ;) !
eb
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