Oops! forgot about the machine room cluster machines, granted those will always 
need loads of  RAM, but my desktop kind are at least 9-12 years from getting 
64Gb of RAM

regards
Joachim

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   2. Re: Re:All that RAM! (Kiggundu Mukasa)My oracle database server has 48GB 
of RAM and 46GB of that is in use. At 
my previous work place, the billing system was a two node cluster and EACH 
of the cluster nodes had 96GB of RAM which is all in use. Infact  I am 
currently having problems with not enough RAm and have to [plan an upgrade 
to 96Gb on my current server.

Solaris handles these amounts of RAm with no problem at all and I expect 
that FreeBSD, and other forms of nix handle it without much trouble.

Noah.


On Sat, 28 Jun 2008, joachim Gwoke wrote:

>
> Speaking of 64GB of RAM, what would you need all that RAM for?  gene
calculations, 10,000 years plus weather simulations or ...(add what ever
complex thing computers do)? The nearest I have seen to that much RAM on a
single machine is 4GB which was only registered as 3.7GB on a winxp desktop, i
bet *Nix wouldn't do any better either.
>
>
> regards
> Joachim
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>   3. [OT] Bill Gates tries out Windows.com (P. A. Bagyenda)KDE4 from the
dvd is very broken but for the brave, add the KDE4 unstable repository and
you'll be able to use the KDE 4.1 betas right away. (See below)
>
> I'm using it now and I love it. Was unhappy that they've
simplified stuff a bit so it scarily resembles GNOME in some aspects, but
for now the pretty factor that the integrated desktop effects compiz (which
finally just works (TM)) has distracted me enough to stay with it.
>
>
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE:/
>
> On 26/06/2008, Mark Tinka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So I had the fever recently, and while recovering, decided
> to spend some time getting into openSuSE-11.0.
>
> Off-the-bat, the install is great! I can't recall what life
> was like back in '99 when ksemat handed me my first SuSE
>
> Linux Professional CD set (well, not mine really, but you
> get the picture).
>
> They have shortened the install process much; the KDE
> installation is some kind of compressed image - I didn't
> get into the details. The reduced install time is very
>
> welcome, especially on slower machines.
>
> The kernel now has PAE (Physical Address Extension) support.
> You may recall Paul Bagyenda's address expansion wish-list
> earlier. Basically, the kernel can support up to 64GB of
>
> RAM on a 32-bit system by increasing the address size to 36
> bits, while retaining compatibility with 32-bit
> applications.
>
> Now, I'm not a programmer, and don't know my $'s from my
#'s
> or couldn't write code to save my life... so whether this
>
> is all bull or not, I can't really say - as long as my 2GB
> can be addressed, it's all good :-).
>
> Avoid KDE-4, it looks pretty but it doesn't work - in short.
> I work heavily under Linux, and KDE-4 just isn't there. A
>
> lot of stuff is broken, and it doesn't play nice with my
> VMware Fusion (resolution and all that). However, rumour
> has it KDE-4.1 is far better, and most folk plan to upgrade
> once it goes stable. Personally, I'll stick with KDE-3.5.9;
>
> besides, openSuSE do warn you that's it not stable, before
> you install.
>
> A few annoying bugs still exist under KMail in KDE-3.5.9, so
> the old workarounds still apply (although they seemed to be
> clear in KDE-4).
>
>
> The system boots faster, integrates better with VMware
> (under KDE-3.5.9) and seems solid.
>
> Another happy camper.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Mark.
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>
>> KDE4 from the dvd is very broken but for the brave, add
>> the KDE4 unstable repository and you'll be able to use
>> the KDE 4.1 betas right away. (See below)
>
> Unfortunately, this goes against my personal policy of
> running stable code. Yes, I did think about it, but I don't
> want to do my work on an experimental platform just
> yet :-).
>
> And I doubt openSuSE will have it for the current release.
> Knowing them, they will more likely integrate it into
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Noah,
I used to like you until that posting

Now because of all the NUGU I have, I believe I hate you!

How could you be playing with that much RAM when some of us have never  
even seen 8 GB on a server :-)

You are Fake and Hopeless and are Worthless to society as a whole!

Kiggs


On Jun 30, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Noah K Sematimba wrote:

>
> My oracle database server has 48GB of RAM and 46GB of that is in  
> use. At my previous work place, the billing system was a two node  
> cluster and EACH of the cluster nodes had 96GB of RAM which is all  
> in use. Infact  I am currently having problems with not enough RAm  
> and have to [plan an upgrade to 96Gb on my current server.
>
> Solaris handles these amounts of RAm with no problem at all and I  
> expect that FreeBSD, and other forms of nix handle it without much  
> trouble.
>
> Noah.
>
>
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008, joachim Gwoke wrote:
>
>>
>> Speaking of 64GB of RAM, what would you need all that RAM for?   
>> gene calculations, 10,000 years plus weather simulations or ...(add  
>> what ever complex thing computers do)? The nearest I have seen to  
>> that much RAM on a single machine is 4GB which was only registered  
>> as 3.7GB on a winxp desktop, i bet *Nix wouldn't do any better  
>> either.
>>
>>
>> regards
>> Joachim
>> --- On Fri, 6/27/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <lug- 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: LUG Digest, Vol 46, Issue 35
>> To: [email protected]
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>>
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>>
>>  1. Re: openSuSE-11.0 + KDE (Peter C. Ndikuwera)
>>  2. Re: openSuSE-11.0 + KDE (Mark Tinka)
>>  3. [OT] Bill Gates tries out Windows.com (P. A. Bagyenda)KDE4 from  
>> the dvd is very broken but for the brave, add the KDE4 unstable  
>> repository and you'll be able to use the KDE 4.1 betas right away.
 
>> (See below)
>>
>> I'm using it now and I love it. Was unhappy that they've
simplified  
>> stuff a bit so it scarily resembles GNOME in some aspects, but for  
>> now the pretty factor that the integrated desktop effects compiz  
>> (which finally just works (TM)) has distracted me enough to stay  
>> with it.
>>
>>
>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE:/
>>
>> On 26/06/2008, Mark Tinka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So I had the fever recently, and while recovering, decided
>> to spend some time getting into openSuSE-11.0.
>>
>> Off-the-bat, the install is great! I can't recall what life
>> was like back in '99 when ksemat handed me my first SuSE
>>
>> Linux Professional CD set (well, not mine really, but you
>> get the picture).
>>
>> They have shortened the install process much; the KDE
>> installation is some kind of compressed image - I didn't
>> get into the details. The reduced install time is very
>>
>> welcome, especially on slower machines.
>>
>> The kernel now has PAE (Physical Address Extension) support.
>> You may recall Paul Bagyenda's address expansion wish-list
>> earlier. Basically, the kernel can support up to 64GB of
>>
>> RAM on a 32-bit system by increasing the address size to 36
>> bits, while retaining compatibility with 32-bit
>> applications.
>>
>> Now, I'm not a programmer, and don't know my $'s from my
#'s
>> or couldn't write code to save my life... so whether this
>>
>> is all bull or not, I can't really say - as long as my 2GB
>> can be addressed, it's all good :-).
>>
>> Avoid KDE-4, it looks pretty but it doesn't work - in short.
>> I work heavily under Linux, and KDE-4 just isn't there. A
>>
>> lot of stuff is broken, and it doesn't play nice with my
>> VMware Fusion (resolution and all that). However, rumour
>> has it KDE-4.1 is far better, and most folk plan to upgrade
>> once it goes stable. Personally, I'll stick with KDE-3.5.9;
>>
>> besides, openSuSE do warn you that's it not stable, before
>> you install.
>>
>> A few annoying bugs still exist under KMail in KDE-3.5.9, so
>> the old workarounds still apply (although they seemed to be
>> clear in KDE-4).
>>
>>
>> The system boots faster, integrates better with VMware
>> (under KDE-3.5.9) and seems solid.
>>
>> Another happy camper.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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>> "Happiness makes up in height what it lacks in length"
>> -- Robert Frost
>> On Thursday 26 June 2008 11:55:34 pm Peter C. Ndikuwera
>> wrote:
>>
>>> KDE4 from the dvd is very broken but for the brave, add
>>> the KDE4 unstable repository and you'll be able to use
>>> the KDE 4.1 betas right away. (See below)
>>
>> Unfortunately, this goes against my personal policy of
>> running stable code. Yes, I did think about it, but I don't
>> want to do my work on an experimental platform just
>> yet :-).
>>
>> And I doubt openSuSE will have it for the current release.
>> Knowing them, they will more likely integrate it into
>> openSuSE-11.1, or whatever version number they choose next.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Mark.An email from Bill Gates, relating his experiences with  
>> Windows XP and
>> Windows.com. If you still use it, you should feel gratified. You are
>> not alone.
>>
>>
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