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2009/7/11 joachim Gwoke <[email protected]>

>
> Mike,
> I lay no claim to being an expert but I have to disagree with you. I am
> willing to bet a little google-time and you will end up with unix or mac
> virus info right from news to source code and tools on how to go about them.
>
>
> Regards
> Joachim
>
> > Â Â Â 1. Re: Google's OS Security Claims Called
> > 'idiotic' (Mike Barnard)
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:14:54 +0300
> > From: Mike Barnard <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [LUG] Google's OS Security Claims Called
> > 'idiotic'
> > To: [email protected],
> > Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]>
> > Message-ID:
> > Â Â Â  <[email protected]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Hari Kurup <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > <http://www.cio.com/article/print/496902>
> > > Bruce Schneier, the chief security technology officer
> > at BT, scoffed at
> > > Google's promise. "It's an idiotic claim," Schneier
> > wrote in an e-mail.
> > > "It was mathematically proved decades ago that it is
> > impossible -- not
> > > an engineering impossibility, not technologically
> > impossible, but the
> > > 2+2=3 kind of impossible -- to create an operating
> > system that is immune
> > > to viruses."
> > >
> >
> >
> > I would tend to disagree and to agree with Bruce. Unless I
> > am wrong, I have
> > not heard of Viruses for MacOS, *BSD family of OSes and
> > UNIX OSes in
> > general, Linux. There is a tendency to find bugs and
> > security holes in
> > programs run on these OSes, but the underlying OS is pretty
> > secure (not
> > 100%). One trend that I believe we have all noticed is the
> > creation of
> > viruses for expensive commercial products. Adobe has been
> > the latest of
> > applications to have viruses targeted at them. i am yet to
> > see a virus
> > targeted to OpenOffice.
> >
> > The OS installed on my laptop has the capability of locking
> > the OS down to
> > the point where if something is not installed, not even
> > root will install it
> > unless you drop down the security level to a level where
> > root is allowed to
> > install and run something globally. This ensures that if i
> > grant user A an
> > account on my laptop, what ever he runs will be in his
> > userland. It will not
> > affect me nor try to change the binary files in the common
> > executable paths.
> >
> > If Google is thinking this way, then they may just be 'a
> > little' right on
> > their claim.
> >
> > Solaris have been working on something that i think can
> > achieve this (stand
> > to be corrected), Containers and
> > Zones<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaris_Containers>
> > The BSd family have had their version for a while called
> > Jails<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD_jail>.
> > Get it from the horses mouth <http://wiki.freebsd.org/Jails>.
> >
> > There is a list of OS support for such
> > system<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system-level_virtualization>and
> > what they can do. Some use external applications, for
> > example, Linux,
> > AIX others have it embedded into the OS, for example,
> > Solaris. FreeBSD
> >
> > --
> > Mike
> >
> > Of course, you might discount this possibility, but
> > remember that one in
> > a million chances happen 99% of the time.
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
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