Hari,
I forgot to comment about the other extract.

I might have misunderstood your comment about the IETF. It often happens when talking about security matters that a 'head in the sand' mentality shows up. “Is it a standard? Is it necessary? Does it influence my set-up?” That is why I tried to explain the point of hiding version information. After revising your comment, I can now see your issue about the reference to the PCI recommendations. It might not be of concern to Ugandan industry yet. Processing of payment/credit card data in on-line applications is not common in Uganda at the moment. But the international industry has picked up on the matter and that not only because of the security issues but also because of business logic. They can sell and distinguish from other products by implementing the PCI DSS recommendations into their applications or as a standard configuration of their products. The value added service is that it is easier for the end user to pass a compliance test without in depth alteration of the configuration or application. That is a convincing selling point. Even web hosting control panels such as Plesk, ISPConfig, LxAdmin, cPanel, etc start to implement those recommendations into the standard "server" settings or at least as optionals. Or open source on-line shop software. Or if you look at the changes in a standard configured php.ini file of different Linux Distributions over the years. So even if it’s not an internet standard the PCI DSS recommendations have gained importance in the industry. E.g. the redpepper.ug website is not processing credit card information (I suppose), yet the http server's version information is hidden in the http request header. That is in accordance with the PCI recommendations even though it wouldn't be necessary. That could be due to the provider's standard configuration policy.

Best regards,
Rocco

Hari Kurup wrote:
Rocco,

My point was not about the merits or demerits of hiding version info,
but about the reference to "PCI" that you gave. If it is a commonly
referenced security standard, I must have been living under a rock
because I had never heard of it till today.

While we are at it, why does your own mail server disclose version info?

220-server.it-doc24.com ESMTP Exim 4.69

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Hari

On 11/28/09 1:39 PM, IT-Doc24 Ltd. - Rocco Radisch wrote:-
That is right. Its not a internet standard but a commonly used security
standard. Not only for the payment card industry but also for
web/internet server/services security audits amongst some other security
"recommendations". E.g. in case the website would process credit card
information.
Whether its a must or not, a standard or a recommendation, just go by
logic. Do you want to hand out (disclose) the version information of a
running service? Indicating which vulnerabilities the service has?
Believing the banner, Postfix 2.3.3 was released in Aug/Oct 2006 .......

Hari Kurup wrote:
On 11/28/09 12:21 PM, IT-Doc24 Ltd. - Rocco Radisch wrote:-

(the version information should be cut out, called banner, its against
PCI recommendation)
https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/
right, so PCI stands for "Payment Card Industry"
They make standards that apply "to all organizations which hold,
process, or pass cardholder information from any card branded with the
logo of one of the card brands"
(ref:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_Card_Industry_Data_Security_Standard)


As they don't make internet standards (that is the work of the IETF), I
don't see why you would base on their recommendations unless you are one
of the said organisations.

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Hari
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