when i scan using the terminal no scan results but wireless card is well 
detected and recognised 
it was only once when i saw it connected to another network (like the first 
time i checked it out) tried reconfiguring it but it still doesnt do much it 
tells me network manager cant be disabled (not exactly but something like 
that)what is the exact process i should use to reconfigure and connect
 DOUGLAS WERE 
BSC.COMPUTER SCIENCE 




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  1. Re: Certification vs Experience (Rob Gipman)
  2. Re: connect to a infocom wireless network on suse11
      (Reinier Battenberg)
  3. Re: connect to a infocom wireless network on suse11 (Rob Gipman)
  4. Re: Certification vs Experience (Mwirima Byaruhanga)
  5. Re: Certification vs Experience (sanga collins)
  6. Re: Certification vs Experience (Niles Collins)
  7. Re: Certification vs Experience (Rob Gipman)
  8. Re: Certification vs Experience (Rob Gipman)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:09:09 +0300
From: Rob Gipman <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LUG] Certification vs Experience
To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <1259762949.26914.84.ca...@gipukan>
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I'm with you on that Victor :)

Gip

On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 14:20 +0300, Victor Miclovich wrote:
> hire what your gut instinct tells you to... if I'm given only 2
> choices: the paper freak and the scarred veteran (without papers)...
> I'd choose the veteran;
> if I have 3 options
> - paper freak
> - scarred veteran
> - paper freak & scarred veteran (with battle bruises)
> I'd choose the third...
> 
> 
> We are looking at all possible options and logical thought... if my
> instinct tells me that, in the 3-option case, scarred veteran-only is
> a fun guy and has all good qualities like being a team player, with
> some great communication at least with me (even other team members)...
> I might reconsider option number 2 :)
> 
> 
> cheers
> Victor
> 
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Mwirima Byaruhanga <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>        > So do you hire the guy/gal who looks like he/she can do it
>        or the
>        > gal/guy who has the battle scars?
>        
>        
>        i'd hire one with both
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:15:15 +0300
From: Reinier Battenberg <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LUG] connect to a infocom wireless network on suse11
To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]>
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Hi Douglas,

As several people stated, you have to provide more information.

rgds,

reinier


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:23:16 +0300
From: Rob Gipman <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LUG] connect to a infocom wireless network on suse11
To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]>
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:) was about to say same here..

On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 17:15 +0300, Reinier Battenberg wrote:
> Hi Douglas,
> 
> As several people stated, you have to provide more information.
> 
> rgds,
> 
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:09:15 +0400
From: Mwirima Byaruhanga <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LUG] Certification vs Experience
To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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sanga collins wrote thus on 12/2/09 5:56 PM:
> Here is my take on the whole matter and why I would lean towards the
> experienced candidate.
> 
> Certifications can be bought. 

whomever buys a certification will certainly have some sort of
experience to back it up, else, like they say, ... you'll be a
barefaced.

> Experience has to be earned. An
> experienced candidate can even read the course work necessary to
> obtain that cert without actually taking the exam.

but it *is* different from taking the exam.

> Still I would like my employees to have at least one cert/degree in
> the it field. To me that conveys that they have the drive and
> motivation to complete their college education or at least be
> qualified for the job.

ack.


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:17:48 -0500
From: sanga collins <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LUG] Certification vs Experience
To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]>
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when i said bought ... i didnt mean going to the black market and purchasing
a counterfeit certificate and exam scores. i meant that education can always
be paid for. but experience is not something you go to your local college
and register for classes.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Mwirima Byaruhanga <[email protected]> wrote:

> sanga collins wrote thus on 12/2/09 5:56 PM:
> > Here is my take on the whole matter and why I would lean towards the
> > experienced candidate.
> >
> > Certifications can be bought.
>
> whomever buys a certification will certainly have some sort of
> experience to back it up, else, like they say, ... you'll be a
> barefaced.
>
> > Experience has to be earned. An
> > experienced candidate can even read the course work necessary to
> > obtain that cert without actually taking the exam.
>
> but it *is* different from taking the exam.
>
> > Still I would like my employees to have at least one cert/degree in
> > the it field. To me that conveys that they have the drive and
> > motivation to complete their college education or at least be
> > qualified for the job.
>
> ack.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:25:57 -0500
From: Niles Collins <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LUG] Certification vs Experience
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I was thinking of bought as in, going to a technical school for 1 year to
become MSCE certified but don't know a single thing about computers when you
get out. But you are certified and therefore on a short list of candidates
as soon as you apply for a job.

I have encountered quite a few of these people in my career. A good
interviewer should weed these candidates out but that does not happen most
of the time.
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:29:05 +0300
From: Rob Gipman <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LUG] Certification vs Experience
To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <1259767745.26914.95.ca...@gipukan>
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That would work a lot in Uganda and els where in Africa. I've already
seen plenty with a computer knowledge certificate that do not know how
to insert de cdrom in the drive! Or connect a utp cat5 cable!

In the western world one can call the training companies to ask if you
did pas for the exam you hold and show. I wonder if MUK or the others
hold up to that here. 

Gip

On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 10:17 -0500, sanga collins wrote:
> when i said bought ... i didnt mean going to the black market and
> purchasing a counterfeit certificate and exam scores. i meant that
> education can always be paid for. but experience is not something you
> go to your local college and register for classes.
> 
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Mwirima Byaruhanga <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>        sanga collins wrote thus on 12/2/09 5:56 PM:
>        > Here is my take on the whole matter and why I would lean
>        towards the
>        > experienced candidate.
>        >
>        > Certifications can be bought.
>        
>        
>        whomever buys a certification will certainly have some sort of
>        experience to back it up, else, like they say, ... you'll be a
>        barefaced.
>        
>        > Experience has to be earned. An
>        > experienced candidate can even read the course work
>        necessary to
>        > obtain that cert without actually taking the exam.
>        
>        
>        but it *is* different from taking the exam.
>        
>        > Still I would like my employees to have at least one
>        cert/degree in
>        > the it field. To me that conveys that they have the drive
>        and
>        > motivation to complete their college education or at least
>        be
>        > qualified for the job.
>        
>        
>        ack.
>        
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:31:38 +0300
From: Rob Gipman <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LUG] Certification vs Experience
To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <1259767898.26914.97.ca...@gipukan>
Content-Type: text/plain

Like I was just saying I even saw to many certified sitting behind a
desk and calling themselves IT Manager. Permit thos that a

On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 10:25 -0500, Niles Collins wrote:
> I was thinking of bought as in, going to a technical school for 1 year
> to become MSCE certified but don't know a single thing about computers
> when you get out. But you are certified and therefore on a short list
> of candidates as soon as you apply for a job.
> 
> I have encountered quite a few of these people in my career. A good
> interviewer should weed these candidates out but that does not happen
> most of the time.
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