Hi Seth, This is what i get.
bw...@bwogi-laptop:~$ /opt/lampp/lampp start You need to start XAMPP as root! bw...@bwogi-laptop:~$ sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start [sudo] password for bwogi: Starting XAMPP for Linux 1.5.5a... XAMPP: Starting Apache with SSL (and PHP5)... XAMPP: Starting MySQL... XAMPP: Starting ProFTPD... XAMPP for Linux started. bw...@bwogi-laptop:~$ sudo /opt/lampp/lampp status Version: XAMPP for Linux 1.5.5a Apache is not running. MySQL is running. ProFTPD is running. bw...@bwogi-laptop:~$ Thanks for the response. On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 21:32 +0300, [email protected] wrote: > Send LUG mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Xampp problems (Seth Herr) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 14:32:28 -0400 > From: Seth Herr <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LUG] Xampp problems > To: [email protected], Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Andrew, > what do you see on the screen when you try: > > /opt/lampp/lampp start > > > > Seth Herr > > Tel: +1.212.289.9535 > Mobile: +1.917.734.0163 > [email protected] > > > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:22 AM, andrew latimer bwogi <[email protected] > > wrote: > > > Daniel, as requested, these are the results > > > > bw...@bwogi-laptop:~$ sudo netstat -ltn > > [sudo] password for bwogi: > > Sorry, try again. > > [sudo] password for bwogi: > > Active Internet connections (only servers) > > Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address > > State > > tcp 0 0 192.168.122.1:53 0.0.0.0:* > > LISTEN > > tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:631 0.0.0.0:* > > LISTEN > > tcp6 0 0 ::1:631 :::* > > LISTEN > > > > On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 12:02 +0300, [email protected] wrote: > > > Send LUG mailing list submissions to > > > [email protected] > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > [email protected] > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > [email protected] > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..." > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. RE: Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 4 (Okalany Daniel) > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 12:01:45 +0300 > > > From: "Okalany Daniel" <[email protected]> > > > Subject: RE: [LUG] Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 4 > > > To: "'Linux Users Group Uganda'" <[email protected]>, > > > <[email protected]> > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > Please send the results of: > > > netstat -ltn > > > > > > > > > > > > As root > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > > Of > > > Norman Katwesigye > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:03 AM > > > To: [email protected]; Linux Users Group Uganda > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Re: LUG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > You might want to check if the OS apache installed by default on Suse is > > > running , if they are binding to the same port your Xammp apache will not > > > start ......... > > > > > > Please check if anything is running on your tcp port 80/443 > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:04 AM, andrew latimer bwogi > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Help guys, > > > Anyone knows why one cannot run apache on newer versions of linux > > > inspite of not installing it by default? > > > > > > bw...@bwogi-laptop:~$ sudo /opt/lampp/lampp status > > > [sudo] password for bwogi: > > > Version: XAMPP for Linux 1.5.5a > > > Apache is not running. > > > MySQL is not running. > > > ProFTPD is not running. > > > bw...@bwogi-laptop:~$ > > > > > > So as you can see above, apache is not running! I had no problems say, > > > with openSuse 10.3 but openSuse 11.1 and the enterprise versions, ubuntu > > > 10.04 lucid linux inclusive are giving me this problem! > > > > > > i'll be most grateful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 08:47 +0300, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Send LUG mailing list submissions to > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > > than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..." > > > > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Opensource alternatives to AutoCAD (joachim Gwoke) > > > > 2. Re: Opensource alternatives to AutoCAD (Gipukan) > > > > 3. Re: Opensource alternatives to AutoCAD (Victor van Reijswoud) > > > > > > > 4. Re: Adobe responds to steve[OT] (Christopher Nambale) > > > > > > > 5. Re: Adobe responds to steve[OT] (Paul Bagyenda) > > > > 6. Re: Ubuntu Release Party (Chris R. Kasangaki) > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 07:35:38 -0700 (PDT) > > > > From: joachim Gwoke <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: [LUG] Opensource alternatives to AutoCAD > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know much about architecture, > > > > but I read somewhere that people use a combination of Blender, Inkscape > > > Graphviz and GIMP and a few other tools to do what AutoCAD does when they > > > decide to go the way of *nix. > > > > > > > > http://www.blender.org/ > > > > http://blender-archi.tuxfamily.org/Main_Page > > > > http://www.inkscape.org/ > > > > http://www.graphviz.org/ > > > > http://www.gimp.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Joachim > > > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 09:47:25 +0300 > > > > > From: Steen Andersen <[email protected]> > > > > > Subject: [LUG] Ubuntu Release Party > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Message-ID: > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Simon and Kyle. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for a great event. > > > > > Being new in Kampala it was really nice to meet so many > > > > > dedicated people. > > > > > > > > > > I went home and installed Luci on my laptop the same > > > > > evening. It took > > > > > approximately 30 minutes, and I was up and running. GREAT. > > > > > > > > > > Thursday I had spend 10 hours upgrading from Vista to 7 on > > > > > the same > > > > > computer! (Then 7 updates all my existing applications, > > > > > which also takes > > > > > quite some time). > > > > > > > > > > Does anybody know if there is a serious open source > > > > > alternative to AutoCad > > > > > for Ubuntu? > > > > > (I have a friend who is an architect who wants to run all > > > > > his stuff with > > > > > Open Source) > > > > > > > > > > Steen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > > Date: Sun, 02 May 2010 17:48:47 +0300 > > > > From: Gipukan <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Opensource alternatives to AutoCAD > > > > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > > > > > > > > You can also try to run autocad under wine or a windows in virtual box. > > > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > On 05/02/2010 05:35 PM, joachim Gwoke wrote: > > > > > I don't know much about architecture, > > > > > but I read somewhere that people use a combination of Blender, > > Inkscape > > > Graphviz and GIMP and a few other tools to do what AutoCAD does when they > > > decide to go the way of *nix. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.blender.org/ > > > > > http://blender-archi.tuxfamily.org/Main_Page > > > > > http://www.inkscape.org/ > > > > > http://www.graphviz.org/ > > > > > http://www.gimp.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Joachim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 09:47:25 +0300 > > > > >> From: Steen Andersen <[email protected]> > > > > >> Subject: [LUG] Ubuntu Release Party > > > > >> To: [email protected] > > > > >> Message-ID: > > > > >> <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Hi Simon and Kyle. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks a lot for a great event. > > > > >> Being new in Kampala it was really nice to meet so many > > > > >> dedicated people. > > > > >> > > > > >> I went home and installed Luci on my laptop the same > > > > >> evening. It took > > > > >> approximately 30 minutes, and I was up and running. GREAT. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thursday I had spend 10 hours upgrading from Vista to 7 on > > > > >> the same > > > > >> computer! (Then 7 updates all my existing applications, > > > > >> which also takes > > > > >> quite some time). > > > > >> > > > > >> Does anybody know if there is a serious open source > > > > >> alternative to AutoCad > > > > >> for Ubuntu? > > > > >> (I have a friend who is an architect who wants to run all > > > > >> his stuff with > > > > >> Open Source) > > > > >> > > > > >> Steen > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > LUG mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > > > > > > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > > > All Archives can be found at > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > > > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > > (including > > > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any > > way. > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 19:35:21 +0300 > > > > From: Victor van Reijswoud <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Opensource alternatives to AutoCAD > > > > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > > > > > > Take look at: > > > > > > > > http://www.osalt.com/autocad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 2, 2010, at 17:48, Gipukan wrote: > > > > > > > > > You can also try to run autocad under wine or a windows in virtual > > > > > box. > > > > > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > On 05/02/2010 05:35 PM, joachim Gwoke wrote: > > > > >> I don't know much about architecture, > > > > >> but I read somewhere that people use a combination of Blender, > > > > >> Inkscape Graphviz and GIMP and a few other tools to do what > > > > >> AutoCAD does when they decide to go the way of *nix. > > > > >> > > > > >> http://www.blender.org/ > > > > >> http://blender-archi.tuxfamily.org/Main_Page > > > > >> http://www.inkscape.org/ > > > > >> http://www.graphviz.org/ > > > > >> http://www.gimp.org/ > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Regards > > > > >> Joachim > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 09:47:25 +0300 > > > > >>> From: Steen Andersen <[email protected]> > > > > >>> Subject: [LUG] Ubuntu Release Party > > > > >>> To: [email protected] > > > > >>> Message-ID: > > > > >>> <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Hi Simon and Kyle. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Thanks a lot for a great event. > > > > >>> Being new in Kampala it was really nice to meet so many > > > > >>> dedicated people. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I went home and installed Luci on my laptop the same > > > > >>> evening. It took > > > > >>> approximately 30 minutes, and I was up and running. GREAT. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Thursday I had spend 10 hours upgrading from Vista to 7 on > > > > >>> the same > > > > >>> computer! (Then 7 updates all my existing applications, > > > > >>> which also takes > > > > >>> quite some time). > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Does anybody know if there is a serious open source > > > > >>> alternative to AutoCad > > > > >>> for Ubuntu? > > > > >>> (I have a friend who is an architect who wants to run all > > > > >>> his stuff with > > > > >>> Open Source) > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Steen > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> LUG mailing list > > > > >> [email protected] > > > > >> http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > >> > > > > >> LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > >> > > > > >> All Archives can be found at > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > >> > > > > >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > > > > >> (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible > > > > >> for them in any way. > > > > >> --------------------------------------- > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > LUG mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > > > > > > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > > > All Archives can be found at > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > > > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > > > > > (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible > > > > > for them in any way. > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 10:02:20 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > From: Christopher Nambale <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Adobe responds to steve[OT] > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > > > And FSF's 'non of the above' > > > recommendation. > > http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/04/pot-meet-kettle-a-r > > > esponse-to-steve-jobs-letter-on-flash.ars > > > > > > > CN > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 5/2/10, Richard Zulu <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > From: Richard Zulu <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: [LUG] Adobe responds to steve[OT] > > > > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]> > > > > Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 1:27 AM > > > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10093314.stm > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Check out my Blog: > > > > http://i-sakaza.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > Have you tried Google trader? > > > > http://www.google.co.ug/africa/trader > > > > > > > > Time Information Company > > > > www.time.co.ug > > > > > > > > http://datamart.co.ug > > > > > > > > Alt Email: [email protected] > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > LUG mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > > > > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > All Archives can be found at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > > > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any > > way. > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > > > URL: > > > > > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/lug/attachments/20100502/35936604/attachment > > . > > > html > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Message: 5 > > > > Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 07:56:53 +0300 > > > > > > > From: Paul Bagyenda <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [LUG] Adobe responds to steve[OT] > > > > To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > > > > > > Oh my! That Ass Technica writer fails to win by volume! SJ will > > champion > > > what best brings cash into his account. If that promotes the free/open > > > religion, then that is purely accidental even if it's good. This guy gets > > > it: > > > > > http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/04/29/jobs_on_flash/#c_752789 > > > > On May 02, 2010, at 20:02, Christopher Nambale wrote: > > > > > > > > > And FSF's 'non of the above' recommendation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/04/pot-meet-kettle-a-response-to-stev > > > e-jobs-letter-on-flash.ars > > > > > > > > > > > > > CN > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 5/2/10, Richard Zulu <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > From: Richard Zulu <[email protected]> > > > > > Subject: [LUG] Adobe responds to steve[OT] > > > > > To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]> > > > > > Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 1:27 AM > > > > > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10093314.stm > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Check out my Blog: > > > > > http://i-sakaza.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > Have you tried Google trader? > > > > > http://www.google.co.ug/africa/trader > > > > > > > > > > Time Information Company > > > > > www.time.co.ug > > > > > > > > > > http://datamart.co.ug > > > > > > > > > > Alt Email: [email protected] > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > LUG mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > > > > > > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > > > All Archives can be found at > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > > > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > > (including > > > attachments if any). 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It should work well in Ubuntu. > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2010-05-02 at 09:47 +0300, Steen Andersen wrote: > > > > > Hi Simon and Kyle. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for a great event. > > > > > Being new in Kampala it was really nice to meet so many dedicated > > > > > people. > > > > > > > > > > I went home and installed Luci on my laptop the same evening. It took > > > > > approximately 30 minutes, and I was up and running. GREAT. > > > > > > > > > > Thursday I had spend 10 hours upgrading from Vista to 7 on the same > > > > > computer! (Then 7 updates all my existing applications, which also > > > > > takes quite some time). > > > > > > > > > > Does anybody know if there is a serious open source alternative to > > > > > AutoCad for Ubuntu? > > > > > (I have a friend who is an architect who wants to run all his stuff > > > > > with Open Source) > > > > > > > > > > Steen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > LUG mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > > > > > > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > > > All Archives can be found at > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > > > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > > (including > > > attachments if any). 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