And yes.. I acknowledge that James said this is his final word but
since he mentioned me by name and I am supposedly the cause of his
choosing to keep silent on this topic.. I think its only fair I
respond to this assertions:
On Jul 7, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Wire James wrote:
Members
this happens to be my final say on this .UG issue because the trend
of emails that I have been reading have been getting more and more
personal. I find it a fallacy that when one offers their position on
an issue and strongly defends it, he/she is labelled all sorts of
names. I was shocked to the marrow by the statement made by Noah
Sematimba in his posting where he states:
***** begin quote *****
I remember clearly this discussion being raised not just once but
multiple times and there being no traction. Now once again it is
being
raised and made to appear as something all the community is pushing
when there has never actually been any such consensus from what I
have
seen from previous discussions.
This makes me begin to question the motives of the people involved in
this and whether they are as altruistic as they try to make them
seem.
***** end quote *****
And why would you reserve the right to "strongly" defend your stand
while denying others the same right to "strongly" defend their stand?
I believe this list is meant to encourage free and open expression of
one's views. Should we thus muzzle freedom of expression of one's
perceptions because those views may offend others?
Frankly my questioning the motives motives of those pushing this
argument does not mean that I am accusing you or anyone else of
anything. Others made posts questioning the motives of UCC on this
issue and I didn't see UCC people going up in arms over their
statements. If someone else were also to question my motives on my
stand, I would simply defend my views and explain why I think they are
wrong in their conclusion, not withdraw from the discussion. However,
NOT acknowledging that people are not always as altruistic as they may
appear would be burying our heads in the sand.
I stand by my statement. If this statement is a fallacy then prove it
by showing how the whole internet community in Uganda has been behind
this before and gotten frustrated by a few as was being insinuated by
others in this thread. Just a good count of previous discussions to
show who was for and against, and even this particular discussion can
easily show whether there has been consensus from the broader
community on this or in my very personal opinion a small bunch of
crusaders trying to give the appearance of consensus by making the
loudest noise.
<On a personal note>
I am surprised that as someone who has been a pillar in the internet
community of Uganda for very many years and someone I have worked
with for quite a good bit of that time both in and outside of the ICT
area you can show such a thin skin. I am sure you have been active in
many internet mailing like the IETF, the various NOGs, and you know
the candour and often heated arguments that characterizes such
discussions yet the members thereof do not take things personal. A
friend once told me that if I couldn't take the heat I should get out
of the kitchen when I was complaining about some responses I had
gotten on a public mailing list when I asked a question. I never left
the kitchen. I learned how to handle the heat!
As someone who at some point I am sure was told to RTFM on some
mailing list earlier in your career like all of us have; How is it
that you stood it then but now quickly begin claiming that someone
questioning your motives has "superstitious insinuations"?
</personal note>
However for the sake of allowing this discussion to continue lest I
appear to be stifling your right to express your views, I will refrain
from questioning yours and anyone else's motives when it comes to this
particular discussion.
Noah.
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