Well we keep coming back to the same argument don't we?

"Other people steal copyright material so we will as well"

Thats why I said to drop this thread. Its not going anywhere.


On 09/08/2010, Wire James <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Tim
>
>
>  Get off your high horse. While many of us may be concerned about the rights
> of copyright holders, the situation not only in Uganda but many other
> African Countries outside South Africa is similar. Many times members on
> this list who are in business can vouch for this, people have come up with
> proposals, ideas, innovations e.t.c and they are 'stolen' from them
> unashamedly and in most instances by corporates that originate from the so
> called purist countries you are trying to talk about. I recall a very famous
> case of one Lugger whose company tussled it out with a giant over
> infringement of copyright on some software. This big company thought it
> would frustrate the guy through the court process but luckily enough, he was
> able to push on till the big elephant sought an out of court settlement.
> However, how many people have been lucky enough to achieve such justice here
> in Uganda? Few, very few. That is why you find the laissez faire attitude
> among the list members because we have more pressing problems and needs than
> pretending that copyright will change our lives. Many times we submit
> proposals for jobs and they are 'copy n pasted' by competitors who have
> insiders in the organisations we are approaching. It is a dog eat dog world
> for now and I will unashamedly tell you that as for now, copyright issues
> are at the bottom of our list of problems to think about. I would rather see
> Badru's project go on if its aim has a more positive impact on this nation
> eventually than guarding worthless songs that have nothing to copyright
> about. Many of these musicians would not even earn a dime if copyright was
> to be observed to the letter in this country. I remember 4 years ago a
> musician I helped to get paid US$ 1500 for a 3 hour show all because I came
> across his music on a website that he even didnt know about. Like someone
> said, it is a skewed market. Just understand it the way it is.
>
>  Wire
>
>
>
>  On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 14:26 +0300, Tim Schofield wrote:
>  On 09/08/2010, Joseph Abdi <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Tim,
> >
> > It's because 90% of the list members have not faced copy-right issues ..
> > Also, since almost 90% of our website materials in Uganda don't use
> > original materials one does not
> > yet see the need or importance of copy-right ...
> >
> > And again, remember this is a LUG list (Open-Source) where FREE, COPY,
> > RE-USE
> > is Legal ...with the OS mentality and mind-set, you can hardly have
> support
> > or understanding of it here ..
>
> No no no no. Open source is only about free re-use if you keep within
> the narrow confines of the license that the software is issued under,
> for example the GPL. It in no way condones the abuse of copyright.
> Copyright is at the very heart of the GPL. Anyone on this list who is
> using a kernel more recent than 2.6.13 is using some of my copyrighted
> code which I allow them to do providing they stick to the letter of
> the license that the code is released under (GPL v2.0).
>
> Every open source developer, and those who benefit from the use of
> open source should be active in the protection of the rights of
> copyright holders. I have spoken at LUG meetings around the world, and
> never before found a group who consider that copyright holders rights
> should be abused.
>
> You clearly believe the rest of the world will throw off its
> fluffiness and join Uganda in this. Trust me you will be disappointed.
>
>
> >
>
>
>
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