you will come to realize that your choice is dependent on the platiform ur carrying out ur programming and also how far in programming you hsve gone, for example if you're just a beginner you will need to use IDDLE since it leaves out the core confusing analogies. and is learner supportive compared to notepad and many others. refer you to http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors#MultiplatformEditors for more infor
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thu 23/09/2010 12:00 To: [email protected] Subject: LUG Digest, Vol 73, Issue 76 Send LUG mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Python editor/IDE (mugisha moses) 2. Re: OT: Which African Country Leads in ICT Expenditures? (Brian Ssennoga) 3. package dependency fail (Gipukan) 4. Re: US FCC picks Drupal, embraces open data and open-source ([email protected]) 5. Re: Python editor/IDE (Tim Schofield) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:09:48 +0300 From: mugisha moses <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LUG] Python editor/IDE To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tim Schofield <[email protected]> wrote: > On 21 September 2010 10:22, mugisha moses <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Tim Schofield <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> The choice of code editor is a very personal thing. Everybody has > >> their own requirements. > >> > > It may be a personal thing but a developer can only be as productive as > the > > tolls he or she uses. Developing an IDE is not an easy task (eclipse > took > > like $200 mil to develop) . i think maybe its about what you are doing . > if > > you want just a text editor you can stick with "other tools" but if you > > really want an Integrated Development Environment ....then Eclipse is the > > best open source tool for python development........ > > Well the reason this subject causes so many arguments is that each > developer has their own needs. For instance I hate code completion. I > know how to code I don't want my editor telling me how to code. Its > just a distraction to me. But thats just my personal feeling, I know > many developers who love code completion. > > > > >> > >> Personally I hate eclipse. I find it slow and bloated. I once brought > >> this up with an eclipse developer who told me to buy a better > >> computer. > >> > >> Buy a better computer to run a glorified text editor!! > > > > Eclipse only gets slow and blotted when you try to install all the > plugins > > that exist.... its a balance ...cut what you dont need and leave what > you > > need and you get the best ide ever conceived... and Eclipse is an IDE > not > > just a text editor... > > As far as scripting languages go, IDE is just the name developers give > code editors when they get bloated :-) > > When the initial IDE's were developed the idea was to integrate the > compiler into the editor, doesn't really apply to scripted languages. > Dynamically typed languages may not have the best Ides at the moment but java has really shown than IDEs do work and they are important. If you try out the javascript ide in intellj ...you will find out that not all ides for dynamically typed languages do suck ... > > >> > >> Over the years many people have told me that I should learn emacs or > >> vi. Why should I have to "learn" a code editor. I just want to write > >> code. > > > > Productivity ... Productivity ..Productivity ...Every developer knows > that > > key strokes are way faster than moving a cursor around the screen. if you > > want to save yourself precious minutes (life is short) ....then you have > to > > spend some painful time learning elisp...in the end its worth > it...because > > you can basically do anything in emacs without using the slow mouse > ....even > > check mail > > I agree, you manage to use eclipse without a mouse? > keyboard shortcuts? > > >> > >> For about the last year I have been using a modified version of Geany > >> (http://www.geany.org) as my editor, but its by no means perfect, but > >> the best I have found so far. > > > > unless i were actively developing it; i would never use a product still > at > > 0.1 ...thats too young few users and lots of bugs > > well thats your personal view. I like to help open source projects > that show promise to grow. Geany has a lot of users, and a sizeable > following. Projects don't get into the major distro repositories if > they are as full of bugs and as unusable as you seem to believe Geany > is. Take my advice, never go by version numbers on open source > projects, they are a very unreliable way of finding out about them. > > >> > >> IMHO > >> > >> thanks > >> Tim > >> > >> > > -- > WebERP Africa Ltd > +447710427049 > +256752963327 > +255784602561 > www.weberpafrica.com > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > --------------------------------------- > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/lug/attachments/20100923/71177f8a/attachment.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:35:21 +0300 From: Brian Ssennoga <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LUG] OT: Which African Country Leads in ICT Expenditures? To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> Message-ID: <1285227321.4651.3.ca...@brian-laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" If only all Website had the energy saving mode that this page has...just chill it for 5 minutes and it will save yo - i guess our - energy! On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 22:52 +0300, Victor van Reijswoud wrote: > The Answer will Surprise You! > > http://www.onlineafrica.net/statistics/world-databank-ict-expenditure-gdp/ > > Figures until 2008 > > V > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > --------------------------------------- > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Anyone? -- Rob ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:29:03 +0200 From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LUG] US FCC picks Drupal, embraces open data and open-source To: Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 2010/09/22 11:47 PM, Kyle Spencer wrote:- > Boomshakalaka! > > Over to you, UCC :) > www.ucc.co.ug runs on Apache/2.0.52 (CentOS) Server So I can safely say that the FCC is catching up :-) -- Hari ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:29:28 +0100 From: Tim Schofield <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LUG] Python editor/IDE To: Linux Users Group Uganda <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 23 September 2010 08:09, mugisha moses <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Dynamically typed languages may not have the best Ides at the moment but > java has really shown than IDEs do work and they are important. If you try > out the javascript ide in intellj ...you will find out that not all ides > for dynamically typed languages do suck ... >> Well it comes back to my original statement of the choice being a very personal thing. If it really was that eclipse was the best for everyone then there wouldn't be so much choice. I used eclipse for a while but Ganymede was terrible, at least when it first came out. Its loading time was longer than open office. It crashed every few minutes. The developers just said my laptop didn't meet the minimum spec. I know its a generalisation and like all generalisations there will be exceptions, but I think the more experienced the programmer the more they want their editor to just get out of the way and let them code. This is why so many experienced developers like vi and emacs. If only the keyboard shortcuts made some sense.... I spend about 10 hours a day in front of my editor, so any small irritations, soon become major annoyances. It has to be just right, and this is maybe why I never settle on one. Sometimes I think of writing one that just suits me :-) Tim -- WebERP Africa Ltd +447710427049 +256752963327 +255784602561 www.weberpafrica.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ LUG mailing list [email protected] http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug End of LUG Digest, Vol 73, Issue 76 *********************************** ########################################### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.f-secure.com/ _______________________________________________ LUG mailing list [email protected] http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). 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