Reinier, I think Paul intended his message for Tim, and wasn't referring to the John Lennon reference :-)
-- Hari On 8 August 2011 13:11, Reinier Battenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I know we have a very broad audience on this list, and for some this was > absolutely obvious. Ever since I came across someone who didnt know who Mickey > Mouse was, I have been in total limbo about what to expect is 'common > knowledge' and what not. > > (I also totally appreciated the lady who enquired if we were familiar with the > genuine Ugandan drink, Coca-Cola. I admit, that didnt happen on this list.) > > For paternistic educational reasons, i do sometimes point out the obvious for > mzees like yourself ;-) > > (i did a quick raise of hands in our office, John won 2:1 The one being somene > who was born 10 years after John was shot.) > > rgds, > > Reinier > >> In Uganda, and especially Buganda, silence should never be mistaken for > incomprehension. Actually it often means something quite different, often lost > on you if you don't know the cultural code. >> >> :) >> >> P. >> >> On Aug 08, 2011, at 13:21, Reinier Battenberg wrote: >> >> > >> > ( >> > for those of you not familiar with John Lennon >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_lennon >> > >> > and the song Tim quoted: >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7qaSxuZUg >> > >> >> >> >> You're not the only one.. >> >> >> >>> Hi Francis, >> >>> >> >>> A very interesting post. I think its been obvious over the last week >> >>> that even the majority of this LUG do not "get" the concepts behind >> >>> software freedom and that is very depressing. >> >>> >> >>> The importance of Free software to a country like Uganda is not that >> >>> it is a source of cheap - or even zero cost - software. If Uganda >> >>> keeps importing software, be it Free or proprietary then it will never >> >>> be able to build a successful software industry of its own. >> >>> >> >>> Imagine a scenario where the government actively promotes Free >> >>> software by only buying Free software from local suppliers, and not >> >>> spending money on proprietary American products. Imagine (sorry I'm >> >>> starting to sound like John Lennon here) if they deployed this >> >>> throughout all the government offices, and government controlled >> >>> organisations. If all the schools were mandated to use Free software, >> >>> so that those leaving school/university were educated in the use of >> >>> Free software, then business would soon see that it was better for >> >>> them to use Free software than spend money on expensive American >> >>> imports that their staff hadn't been trained to use. The companies >> >>> that innovated the most and gave most back to the Free software >> >>> community would naturally be the one who won the most contracts, >> >>> encouraging healthy competition and innovation, leading to better >> >>> quality software engineers. >> >>> >> >>> I can already hear people saying that this is far fetched and will >> >>> never happen. Before you start to attack me again do some research >> >>> into what is happening in Brazil, a country that really "gets" Free >> >>> software, right from the top down. They have created a thriving local >> >>> software industry that is having a knock on effect throughout the rest >> >>> of their booming economy. >> >>> >> >>> However if even the local LUG is against the principles of software >> >>> freedom, where people say "I just use whatever the best tool is even >> >>> if it's proprietary" "apple products are super cool" "Google has made >> >>> Linux closed-source" etc etc then what hope have we of ever convincing >> >>> the powers that be to adopt Free software? How many millions of >> >>> dollars does Uganda spend on imported American software per year? >> >>> Wouldn't it be better if that was spent on a local software industry? >> >>> You may say I'm a dreamer but............... :-) >> >>> >> >>> Thanks >> >>> Tim >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 8 August 2011 06:07, Francis Musinguzi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> 1. Despite successes, FLOSS still misunderstood, villianized (Is it >> >> possible >> >>>> to make some money?) http://goo.gl/9ZhmY >> >>>> 2. Katherine Noyes "One of the great things about open source software >> > is >> >>>> that it doesn't just bring a wealth of benefits to businesses. Rather, >> > by >> >>>> making low-cost, high-quality software widely available to everyone, it >> >> also >> >>>> has the potential to change lives around the world." > http://goo.gl/IPrZJ >> >>>> Francis, >> >>>> Coordinator, SimuSync >> >>>> GridWorX Ltd. >> >>>> Blog: blog.simusync.com | E-Mail: [email protected] | Facebook >> >>>> ID: SimuSync | FanPage ID: SimuSync1 | Quora ID: Simu-Sync | Twitter >> >>>> ID: @SimuSync | Website: www.simusync.com >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >>>> >> >>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> >> [email protected] >> >>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> >>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >>>> >> >>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> >>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >>>> >> >>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> >>>> attachments if any). 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The mailing list host is not responsible for them in > any >> > way. >> >> >> > -- >> > rgds, >> > >> > Reinier Battenberg >> > Director >> > Mountbatten Ltd. >> > +256 758 801 749 >> > www.mountbatten.net >> > http://twitter.com/batje >> > http://twitter.com/mapuganda >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> > >> > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > [email protected] >> > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> > >> > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> > >> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). 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