True that. Limiting the length might be a solution, but txt records are used for SPF so tricky on provider level. Bind is like a dns server swiss knife. Although, I haven't come across many deployments using bind as LAN dns server?


On 14/10/2012 17:23, Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote:
A very easy way of blocking DNS tunnelling (given a forced local DNS server in your control) would be to block all TXT replies, or even to limit the length of a query so the base32-encoded data simply will not fit. None of these measures would hamper ordinary usage, and both of these are standard configuration options in BIND, and, I'm sure, in many other DNS daemons, so blocking it is quite trivial.

But it probably will go unnoticed for quite some time, unless you use disruptive amounts of resources.

On 14 October 2012 16:10, Rocco Radisch <[email protected]> wrote:
ICMP can be blocked, hence its boring. Look at DNS tunnelling and you will quickly realise where the real hammer is. Ok, for speed reasons an openvpn tunnel on udp port 53 might be an alternative if outgoing DNS traffic is not blocked. DNS tunnelling uses the internal DNS servers to relay traffic, which is difficult to block. So, with all outbound traffic blocked and with only access to internal resources it is still possible to go to Facebook with the help of an internal DNS server ;-) That can only be mitigated on the DNS server itself and there are not so many options yet. Snort might be able to tell the difference (if listening on LAN).
Same principles work with local provider's Hotspot - "please load more credit" sites. Or, for the tech novices, just look up WiFree. It uses all mentioned methods (udp, tcp, icmp, dns) seemingly together.

Rocco


On 14/10/2012 12:42 PM, [email protected] wrote:
However, most ops have probably not even heard about ICMP tunnelling. Even if this one has, examining the contents of the ICMP Echo payload will probably not be the first thing an ordinary op does. She will probably think you are ICMP flooding the target, though, and that is probably a graver offence than a little tunnelling.

If it's a public hotspot you probably have nothing much to fear, though, as you are anonymous and practically impossible to trace.

Phillip Simbwa <[email protected]> wrote:
>The ICMP tunnelling trick was quite nifty. It will light most pieces of network
monitoring softwares up like Christmas trees, though, but chances are public hotspot providers do not monitor traffic that closely.
My man is working with just a Linksys wireless router <cough> </cough> If i was one of his stress boys, and my casual reconn indicated that the Linksys was his strongest weapon; I wouldn't put much effort to it (it would be over kill).

But if the wireless router is loaded with ddwrt, i would tread more
carefully -- the network admin may not be the ordinary nice guy. He
may have a few surprises up his sleeve (e.g dumping  logs from the
Linksys to some remote server for ana
 lysis).
In such a situation,
going with ICMP/DNS tunneling is like carrying a knife to a gun fight.




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