yes, you are right, but i think we need to find a work around this...

> As one who works with URA on the implementation of eTax for banks, I will
> tell you the excel sheets
> are no go areas. We (independent developers) even talked to them about
> their
> releasing spec for the
> final data so that we could provide it ourselves but they said no. These
> guys bought a solution from Tata
>
> That actually relies on another external app (the excel workbook) to
> function.
>
> When you do the filling in, there are certain calculational
> inconsistencies
> they require since they are never
> consistent as to where to round off or merely drop decimal places.  We
> talk
> to the URA guys on twitter so
> maybe we can push for an API so they can maintain their bs standard and
> yet
> allow us upload our data online.
>
>
>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, 25 January 2013 23:17
> To: Uganda Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [LUG] Ugandan FLOSS projects
>
>
>
> My thinking was to build a module inside OpenERP, which would produce a
> filled in version of the VAT Template Form. I know I can fill in an Excel
> Template either using code or Kettle ETL, I don't want to generate the
> file
> upload file because then if the format changes it'll be more work to
> maintain.
>
>
>
> The VAT Form is an Excel Spreadsheet with Macro's. The Macro's do things
> like autofill bank branches and also check that the math on the form is
> right or URA right at least ;-)
>
>
>
> The form sheets do not change much, but the back end code does from time
> to
> time as banks change.
>
>
>
> Producing the various invoice lines would be possible using analytically
> accounts. A similar module exists for the UK VAT system, which works on
> this
> principle.
>
>
>
> Something similar could be done for the PAYE and NSSF Reports also.
>
>
>
> Simon
>
> On 25 January 2013 12:59, <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>
> Hi, haven't had time to look into this: but the form you provided seems to
> look like:
>
> struct vassJakeForm{
>   struct SectionA *firstSection
>   struct SectionB *secondSection, etc
>
> }
>
> or
>
>
> public class vassJakeForm{
>
> /*Form Constructor*/
> public vassJakeForm(SectionA firstSection, SectionB secondSection,
> SectionC thirdSection, SectionD forthSection, SectionE fifthSection, etc){
> }
>
> }
>
> the model may have to map to a database given the form consists of drop
> downs whose interface we may have no access to.
>
> As for the view, do you want a human interface to the above controller or
> a parser interface between your monthly VAT report file generated by the
> ERP system(ie the controller reads the file and parses it into the format
> desired by ura system, sends ura system an email and copies you) or both
> interfaces.
>
>
> Given its enterprise, then probably a web interface, but the form seems to
> be big for a transactional commit or persist (need look further into
> that...) Will give it a shot as we make resources available for it.
>
>
> Then you talked of pre-populating the view (does that mean keeping
> multiple copies of the model which you can update as you please?)
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>> Plus the path to download the source doc seems to be the same
>>
> http://www.ura.go.ug/eServices/howToDownload.jsp?path=Tin_Individual_Sample.
> xls
>>
>>
>> On 11 January 2013 21:22, [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>>
>>> That is why you'll need to have the ability to store more than one
>>> source
>>> e-tax doc, and the final upload file.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 January 2013 21:20, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Until they randomly issue a new doc
>>>> On Jan 11, 2013 8:26 PM, "[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> " <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No, we would need to build a module which takes a blank form and
>>>>> using
>>>>> some presets fills it in. From what I understand the URA does not
>>>>> have
>>>>> or
>>>>> want an API for the e-tax system due to the potential for security
>>>>> issues.
>>>>> So the plan is to build a module to make it simple using the existing
>>>>> system.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11 January 2013 19:48, <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, is your erp system already auto integrated with the ura system?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps you could also have some API info on how to integrate with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> local payment gateways; Reinier hinted on it per the ura system, but
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> sure if that API can also be accessed via other systems?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > The next module I want to create is the Uganda VAT module. I hate
>>>>>> doing
>>>>>> > VAT, I know it is relatively simple to fill in the e-tax form but
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > macros and lack of a proper copy-paste function makes me want to
>>>>>> scream.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Want to create a module that can fill in the whole thing at the
>>>>>> click
>>>>>> of a
>>>>>> > button. Very doable.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Simon
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 10 January 2013 12:59, Simon Vass <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Please be. Always looking for inspired people to join in.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On 10 January 2013 12:57, Kamya isaac lubwama <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> thanks Simon
>>>>>> >>> am inspired
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Kind Regards
>>>>>> >>> Isaac Kamya
>>>>>> >>> 0774452610
>>>>>> >>> On Jan 10, 2013 12:11 PM, "Reinier Battenberg" <
>>>>>> >>> [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> In yesterdays email i forgot to ask for links to Ugandan FlOSS
>>>>>> >>>> projects.
>>>>>> >>>> I
>>>>>> >>>> found one:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> https://github.com/etechuganda/l10n_ug
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> its an OpenERP module for Uganda specific information.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Do other people know of more projects like this?
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> (and credits to Simon & his clients who paid for this)
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> rgds,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Reinier Battenberg
>>>>>> >>>> Director
>>>>>> >>>> Mountbatten Ltd.
>>>>>> >>>> www.mountbatten.net <http://www.mountbatten.net>
>>>>>> >>>> tel: +256 758 801749 <tel:%2B256%20758%20801749>
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>>>>>> >> Managing Director
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>>>>>
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