Changelog is just one of the users for llog. There are many other users for 
llog. Means that even if without changelog, it is still possible to hit such 
trouble. So running robinhood when making snapshot may increase such race 
possibility, but disabling robinhood does not means resolved the issue. The 
final solution should be the enhancement of snapshot-mount logic.

I did not find related LU ticket for this issue.

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Cheers,
Nasf

From: lustre-discuss [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Robert Redl
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 6:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [lustre-discuss] Lustre/ZFS snapshots mount error


Thanks for the fast reply! If I understood correctly, it is currently not 
possible to use the changelog feature together with the snapshot feature, right?

Is there already a LU-Ticket about that?

Cheers,
Robert

On 09/10/2018 02:57 PM, Yong, Fan wrote:
It is suspected that there were some llog to be handled when the snapshot was 
making Then when mount-up such snapshot, some conditions trigger the llog 
cleanup/modification automatically. So it is not related with your actions when 
mount the snapshot. Since we cannot control the system status when making the 
snapshot, then we have to skip llog related cleanup/modification against the 
snapshot when mount the snapshot. Such “skip” related logic is just what we 
need.

Cheers,
Nasf
From: lustre-discuss [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Robert Redl
Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 9:04 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [lustre-discuss] Lustre/ZFS snapshots mount error


Dear All,

we have a similar setup with Lustre on ZFS and we make regular use of snapshots 
for the purpose of backups (backups on tape use snapshots as source). We would 
like to use robinhood in future and the question is now how to do it.

Would it be a workaround to disable the robinhood daemon temporary during the 
mount process?
Does the problem only occur when changelogs are consumed during the process of 
mounting a snapshot? Or is it also a problem when changelogs are consumed while 
the snapshot remains mounted (which is for us typically several hours)?
Is there already an LU-ticket about this issue?

Thanks!
Robert
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Dr. Robert Redl
Scientific Programmer, "Waves to Weather" (SFB/TRR165)
Meteorologisches Institut
Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München
Theresienstr. 37, 80333 München, Germany
Am 03.09.2018 um 08:16 schrieb Yong, Fan:
I would say that it is not your operations order caused trouble. Instead, it is 
related with the snapshot mount logic. As mentioned in former reply, we need 
some patch for the llog logic to avoid modifying llog under snapshot mode.


--
Cheers,
Nasf
From: Kirk, Benjamin (JSC-EG311) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 7:53 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>; Yong, 
Fan <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [lustre-discuss] Lustre/ZFS snapshots mount error

The MDS situation is very basic: active/passive mds0/mds1 for both fas & fsB.  
fsA has the combined msg/mdt in a single zfs filesystem, and fsB has its own 
mdt in a separate zfs filesystem.  mds0 is primary for all.

fsA & fsB DO both have changelogs enabled to feed robinhood databases.

What’s the recommended procedure here we should follow before mounting the 
snapshots?

1) disable changelogs on the active mdt’s (this will compromise robinhood, 
requiring a rescan…), or
2) temporarily halt changelog consumption / cleanup (e.g. stop robinhood in our 
case) and then mount the snapshot?

Thanks for the help!

--
Benjamin S. Kirk, Ph.D.
NASA Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
Acting Chief, Aeroscience & Flight Mechanics Division

On Aug 27, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Yong, Fan 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

According to the stack trace, someone was trying to cleanup old empty llogs 
during mount the snapshot. We do NOT allow any modification during mount 
snapshot; otherwise, it will trigger ZFS backend BUG(). That is why we add 
LASSERT() when start the transaction. One possible solution is that, we can add 
some check in the llog logic to avoid modifying llog under snapshot mode.


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Cheers,
Nasf

-----Original Message-----
From: lustre-discuss [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Andreas Dilger
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 5:57 AM
To: Kirk, Benjamin (JSC-EG311) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [lustre-discuss] Lustre/ZFS snapshots mount error

It's probably best to file an LU ticket for this issue.

It looks like there is something with the log processing at mount that is 
trying to modify the configuration files.  I'm not sure whether that should be 
allowed or not.

Does fab have the same MGS as fsA?  Does it have the same MDS node as fsA?
If it has a different MDS, you might consider to give it its own MGS as well.
That doesn't have to be a separate MGS node, just a separate filesystem (ZFS 
fileset in the same zpool) on the MDS node.

Cheers, Andreas




On Aug 27, 2018, at 10:18, Kirk, Benjamin (JSC-EG311) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi all,

We have two filesystems, fsA & fsB (eadc below).  Both of which get snapshots 
taken daily, rotated over a week.  It’s a beautiful feature we’ve been using in 
production ever since it was introduced with 2.10.

-) We’ve got Lustre/ZFS 2.10.4 on CentOS 7.5.
-) Both fsA & fsB have changelogs active.
-) fsA has combined mgt/mdt on a single ZFS filesystem.
-) fsB has a single mdt on a single ZFS filesystem.
-) for fsA, I have no issues mounting any of the snapshots via lctl.
-) for fsB, I can mount the most three recent snapshots, then encounter errors:

[root@hpfs-fsl-mds0 ~]# lctl snapshot_mount -F eadc -n eadc_AutoSS-Mon
mounted the snapshot eadc_AutoSS-Mon with fsname 3d40bbc
[root@hpfs-fsl-mds0 ~]# lctl snapshot_umount -F eadc -n
eadc_AutoSS-Mon
[root@hpfs-fsl-mds0 ~]# lctl snapshot_mount -F eadc -n eadc_AutoSS-Sun
mounted the snapshot eadc_AutoSS-Sun with fsname 584c07a
[root@hpfs-fsl-mds0 ~]# lctl snapshot_umount -F eadc -n
eadc_AutoSS-Sun
[root@hpfs-fsl-mds0 ~]# lctl snapshot_mount -F eadc -n eadc_AutoSS-Sat
mounted the snapshot eadc_AutoSS-Sat with fsname 4e646fe
[root@hpfs-fsl-mds0 ~]# lctl snapshot_umount -F eadc -n
eadc_AutoSS-Sat
[root@hpfs-fsl-mds0 ~]# lctl snapshot_mount -F eadc -n eadc_AutoSS-Fri
mount.lustre: mount metadata/meta-eadc@eadc_AutoSS-Fri at
/mnt/eadc_AutoSS-Fri_MDT0000 failed: Read-only file system Can't mount
the snapshot eadc_AutoSS-Fri: Read-only file system

The relevant bits from dmesg are
[1353434.417762] Lustre: 3d40bbc-MDT0000: set dev_rdonly on this
device [1353434.417765] Lustre: Skipped 3 previous similar messages
[1353434.649480] Lustre: 3d40bbc-MDT0000: Imperative Recovery enabled,
recovery window shrunk from 300-900 down to 150-900 [1353434.649484]
Lustre: Skipped 3 previous similar messages [1353434.866228] Lustre:
3d40bbc-MDD0000: changelog on [1353434.866233] Lustre: Skipped 1
previous similar message [1353435.427744] Lustre: 3d40bbc-MDT0000:
Connection restored to ...@tcp<mailto:...@tcp> (at ...@tcp<mailto:...@tcp>) 
[1353435.427747] Lustre:
Skipped 23 previous similar messages [1353445.255899] Lustre: Failing
over 3d40bbc-MDT0000 [1353445.255903] Lustre: Skipped 3 previous
similar messages [1353445.256150] LustreError: 11-0:
3d40bbc-OST0000-osc-MDT0000: operation ost_disconnect to node 
...@tcp<mailto:...@tcp>
failed: rc = -107 [1353445.257896] LustreError: Skipped 23 previous
similar messages [1353445.353874] Lustre: server umount
3d40bbc-MDT0000 complete [1353445.353877] Lustre: Skipped 3 previous
similar messages [1353475.302224] Lustre: 4e646fe-MDD0000: changelog
on [1353475.302228] Lustre: Skipped 1 previous similar message [1353498.964016] 
LustreError: 25582:0:(osd_handler.c:341:osd_trans_create()) 
36ca26b-MDT0000-osd: someone try to start transaction under readonly mode, 
should be disabled.
[1353498.967260] LustreError: 25582:0:(osd_handler.c:341:osd_trans_create()) 
Skipped 1 previous similar message
[1353498.968829] CPU: 6 PID: 25582 Comm: mount.lustre Kdump: loaded Tainted: P  
         OE  ------------   3.10.0-862.6.3.el7.x86_64 #1
[1353498.968830] Hardware name: Supermicro SYS-6027TR-D71FRF/X9DRT,
BIOS 3.2a 08/04/2015 [1353498.968832] Call Trace:
[1353498.968841]  [<ffffffffb5b0e80e>] dump_stack+0x19/0x1b
[1353498.968851]  [<ffffffffc0cbe5db>] osd_trans_create+0x38b/0x3d0
[osd_zfs] [1353498.968876]  [<ffffffffc1116044>]
llog_destroy+0x1f4/0x3f0 [obdclass] [1353498.968887]
[<ffffffffc111f0f6>] llog_cat_reverse_process_cb+0x246/0x3f0
[obdclass] [1353498.968897]  [<ffffffffc111a32c>]
llog_reverse_process+0x38c/0xaa0 [obdclass] [1353498.968910]
[<ffffffffc111eeb0>] ? llog_cat_process_cb+0x4e0/0x4e0 [obdclass]
[1353498.968922]  [<ffffffffc111af69>]
llog_cat_reverse_process+0x179/0x270 [obdclass] [1353498.968932]
[<ffffffffc1115585>] ? llog_init_handle+0xd5/0x9a0 [obdclass]
[1353498.968943]  [<ffffffffc1116e78>] ? llog_open_create+0x78/0x320
[obdclass] [1353498.968949]  [<ffffffffc12e55f0>] ?
mdd_root_get+0xf0/0xf0 [mdd] [1353498.968954]  [<ffffffffc12ec7af>]
mdd_prepare+0x13ff/0x1c70 [mdd] [1353498.968966]  [<ffffffffc166b037>]
mdt_prepare+0x57/0x3b0 [mdt] [1353498.968983]  [<ffffffffc1183afd>]
server_start_targets+0x234d/0x2bd0 [obdclass] [1353498.968999]
[<ffffffffc1153500>] ? class_config_dump_handler+0x7e0/0x7e0
[obdclass] [1353498.969012]  [<ffffffffc118541d>]
server_fill_super+0x109d/0x185a [obdclass] [1353498.969025]
[<ffffffffc115cef8>] lustre_fill_super+0x328/0x950 [obdclass]
[1353498.969038]  [<ffffffffc115cbd0>] ?
lustre_common_put_super+0x270/0x270 [obdclass] [1353498.969041]
[<ffffffffb561f3bf>] mount_nodev+0x4f/0xb0 [1353498.969053]
[<ffffffffc1154f18>] lustre_mount+0x38/0x60 [obdclass]
[1353498.969055]  [<ffffffffb561ff3e>] mount_fs+0x3e/0x1b0 [1353498.969060]  
[<ffffffffb563d4b7>] vfs_kern_mount+0x67/0x110 [1353498.969062]  
[<ffffffffb563fadf>] do_mount+0x1ef/0xce0 [1353498.969066]  
[<ffffffffb55f7c2c>] ? kmem_cache_alloc_trace+0x3c/0x200 [1353498.969069]  
[<ffffffffb5640913>] SyS_mount+0x83/0xd0 [1353498.969074]  [<ffffffffb5b20795>] 
system_call_fastpath+0x1c/0x21 [1353498.969079] LustreError: 
25582:0:(llog_cat.c:1027:llog_cat_reverse_process_cb()) 36ca26b-MDD0000: fail 
to destroy empty log: rc = -30
[1353498.970785] CPU: 6 PID: 25582 Comm: mount.lustre Kdump: loaded Tainted: P  
         OE  ------------   3.10.0-862.6.3.el7.x86_64 #1
[1353498.970786] Hardware name: Supermicro SYS-6027TR-D71FRF/X9DRT,
BIOS 3.2a 08/04/2015 [1353498.970787] Call Trace:
[1353498.970790]  [<ffffffffb5b0e80e>] dump_stack+0x19/0x1b
[1353498.970795]  [<ffffffffc0cbe5db>] osd_trans_create+0x38b/0x3d0
[osd_zfs] [1353498.970807]  [<ffffffffc1117921>]
llog_cancel_rec+0xc1/0x880 [obdclass] [1353498.970817]
[<ffffffffc111e13b>] llog_cat_cleanup+0xdb/0x380 [obdclass]
[1353498.970827]  [<ffffffffc111f14d>]
llog_cat_reverse_process_cb+0x29d/0x3f0 [obdclass] [1353498.970838]
[<ffffffffc111a32c>] llog_reverse_process+0x38c/0xaa0 [obdclass]
[1353498.970848]  [<ffffffffc111eeb0>] ?
llog_cat_process_cb+0x4e0/0x4e0 [obdclass] [1353498.970858]
[<ffffffffc111af69>] llog_cat_reverse_process+0x179/0x270 [obdclass]
[1353498.970868]  [<ffffffffc1115585>] ? llog_init_handle+0xd5/0x9a0
[obdclass] [1353498.970878]  [<ffffffffc1116e78>] ?
llog_open_create+0x78/0x320 [obdclass] [1353498.970883]
[<ffffffffc12e55f0>] ? mdd_root_get+0xf0/0xf0 [mdd] [1353498.970887]
[<ffffffffc12ec7af>] mdd_prepare+0x13ff/0x1c70 [mdd] [1353498.970894]
[<ffffffffc166b037>] mdt_prepare+0x57/0x3b0 [mdt] [1353498.970908]
[<ffffffffc1183afd>] server_start_targets+0x234d/0x2bd0 [obdclass]
[1353498.970924]  [<ffffffffc1153500>] ?
class_config_dump_handler+0x7e0/0x7e0 [obdclass] [1353498.970938]
[<ffffffffc118541d>] server_fill_super+0x109d/0x185a [obdclass]
[1353498.970950]  [<ffffffffc115cef8>] lustre_fill_super+0x328/0x950
[obdclass] [1353498.970962]  [<ffffffffc115cbd0>] ?
lustre_common_put_super+0x270/0x270 [obdclass] [1353498.970964]
[<ffffffffb561f3bf>] mount_nodev+0x4f/0xb0 [1353498.970976]
[<ffffffffc1154f18>] lustre_mount+0x38/0x60 [obdclass]
[1353498.970978]  [<ffffffffb561ff3e>] mount_fs+0x3e/0x1b0
[1353498.970980]  [<ffffffffb563d4b7>] vfs_kern_mount+0x67/0x110
[1353498.970982]  [<ffffffffb563fadf>] do_mount+0x1ef/0xce0
[1353498.970984]  [<ffffffffb55f7c2c>] ?
kmem_cache_alloc_trace+0x3c/0x200 [1353498.970986]
[<ffffffffb5640913>] SyS_mount+0x83/0xd0 [1353498.970989]
[<ffffffffb5b20795>] system_call_fastpath+0x1c/0x21 [1353498.970996]
LustreError: 25582:0:(mdd_device.c:354:mdd_changelog_llog_init())
36ca26b-MDD0000: changelog init failed: rc = -30 [1353498.972790]
LustreError: 25582:0:(mdd_device.c:427:mdd_changelog_init())
36ca26b-MDD0000: changelog setup during init failed: rc = -30
[1353498.974525] LustreError:
25582:0:(mdd_device.c:1061:mdd_prepare()) 36ca26b-MDD0000: failed to
initialize changelog: rc = -30 [1353498.976229] LustreError:
25582:0:(obd_mount_server.c:1879:server_fill_super()) Unable to start
targets: -30 [1353499.072002] LustreError:
25582:0:(obd_mount.c:1582:lustre_fill_super()) Unable to mount  (-30)


I’m hoping those traces mean something to someone - any ideas?

Thanks!

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