On Jan 8, 2020, at 06:13, Matt Rásó-Barnett 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Kris,
I assume you are using Amazon's FSx for Lustre product 
(https://aws.amazon.com/fsx/lustre/) for this, rather than rolling Lustre HSM 
to S3 on AWS yourself?

I'm afraid I don't know any more than you do on this product but it's something 
I've been keen to play with as it sounds really interesting.

However the process or policy-engine by which Amazon are mapping S3 objects to 
files in Lustre is not part of Lustre itself so you'd need input from Amazon on 
this - maybe Aurelien (in BCC) can comment here?

From their overview documenation my understanding is that the Lustre FS is 
meant to be short lived in this model, so you create it populated with the 
contents of the bucket *at that time*, run your workload, then archive results 
back and delete the FS.

So if your bucket has been updated post Lustre FS creation, you may have to 
destroy the Lustre FS and recreate it to notice the changes. HSM isn't designed 
to be a mechanism for synchronising two endpoints that change independent of 
the other, so any change to the backend not via the filesystem will not be 
tracked.

Wouldn't it be enough to "lfs hsm_release <file> ..." from Lustre, so that 
Lustre drops the local copy of the file, and it is imported again from S3?  
There would need to be some mechanism to run this command when the S3 object is 
modified (preferably automatically), which is outside the scope of Lustre.  Are 
there S3 events that could be hooked in this case to trigger an action, or a 
Changelog equivalent?

Cheers, Andreas

On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 03:18:39PM -0800, Kristian Kvilekval wrote:
We have Lustre <- HSM -> S3

We have direct modifications to S3 that occur after the Lustre filesystem
is created
I was  wondering if there is any way to register a new/deleted file at the
Lustre level using HSM or other commands

Say a user uploads a file to S3, and I know  the mapped path in Lustre,
I would like to do
lfs hsm_register /path/to/file/in/S3/     # Create a metadata entry in
Lustre
lfs hsm_restore /path/to/file/in/S3       # Fetch file from S3 into Lustre

Thx






On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:04 AM Colin Faber 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Can you provide an example of what you're attempting to accomplish?  Am I
understanding correctly, that you've got a lustre file system, you're then
writing data into this file system?

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 10:02 PM Kristian Kvilekval 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

We are using Lustre on AWS backed by S3 buckets.
When creating a new Lustre filesystem, S3 metadata can be automatically
imported  into Lustre.  When changes occur to the underlying S3 store,
these changes are not automatically reflected.

Is it possible to indicate the creation / deletion of the underlying S3
files after filesystem creation using HSM?
Is it possible to reimport the underlying metadata after creation?

Any pointers appreciated.

Thanks,
Kris

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