On Sep 18, 2024, at 10:47, Apostolis Stamatis 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I am trying to read/write a specific stripe for files striped across multiple 
OSTs. I've been looking around the C api but with no success so far.


Let's say I have a big file which is striped across multiple OSTs. I have a 
cluster of compute nodes which perform some computation on the data of the 
file. Each node needs only a subset of that data.

I want each node to be able to read/write only the needed information, so that 
all reads/writes can happen in parallel. The desired data may or may not be 
aligned with the stripes (this is secondary).

It is my understanding that stripes are just parts of the file. Meaning that if 
I have an array of 100 rows and stripe A contains the first half, then it would 
contain the first 50 rows, is this correct?

This is not totally correct.  The location of the data depends on the size of 
the data and the stripe size.

For a 1-stripe file (the default unless otherwise specified) then all of the 
data would be in a single object, regardless of the size of the data.

For a 2-stripe file with stripe_size=1MiB, then the first MB of data [0-1MB) is 
on object 0, the second MB of data [1-2MB) is on object 1, and the third MB of 
data [2-3MB) is back on object 0, etc.

See https://wiki.lustre.org/Understanding_Lustre_Internals#Lustre_File_Layouts 
for example.

To sum up my questions are:

1) Can I read/write a specific stripe of a file via the C api to achieve better 
performance/locality?

There is no Lustre llapi_* interface that provides this functionality, but you 
can of course read the file with regular read() or preferably pread() or 
readv() calls with the right file offsets.

2) Is it correct that stripes include parts of the file, meaning the raw data? 
If not, can the raw data be extracted from any additional information stored in 
the stripe?

For example, if you have a 4-stripe file, then the application should read 
every 4th MB of the file to stay on the same OST object. Note that the *OST* 
index is not necessarily the same as the *stripe* number of the file.  To read 
the file from the local OST then it should check the local OST index and select 
that OST index from the file to determine the offset from the start of the file 
= stripe_size * stripe_number.

However, you could also do this more easily by having a bunch of 1-stripe files 
and doing the reads directly on the local OSTs.  You would run "lfs find DIR -i 
LOCAL_OST_IDX" to get a list of the files on each OST, and then process them 
directly.

3) If each compute node is run on top of a different OST where stripes of the 
file are stored, would it be better in terms of performance to have the node 
read the stripe of its OST? (because e.g. it avoids data transfer over the 
network)

This is not necessarily needed, if you have a good network, but it depends on 
the workload.  Local PCI storage access is about the same speed as remote PCI 
network access because they are limited by the PCI bus bandwidth.  You would 
notice a difference is if you have a large number of clients and they are 
completely IO-bound that overwhelm the storage.

Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger
Lustre Principal Architect
Whamcloud







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