The turkish 'ud has never been fretted. same is for any idan from Morocco to Iraq. The only fretted "lute" they havein Turkey is the Lauta which is different and has a longer neck and different tuning. Only long neck lutes, like the tanbur, or the baglama , saz, and cura in Turkey as well as the Buzuq (in Siria and Lebanon) the Iranian tar, setar and many similar long necked lutes from Greece to Turkmenistan, have always been fretted. davide rebuffa
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Schall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael Stitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "lute list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 7:23 PM Subject: Re: fretted ud: still exists - here > Hi Michael, > > it seems as if the turkey has reimported the european lute (with frets) > which was to a certain degree spread over the osmanian empire (and in > india). I think they coexist together with the arabian form of the ud > without frets and are slightly different built. > Daniel would surely be able to tell more about it (I'm just starting to > deal with this topic). > As far as I know uds with frets are not common in northern africa. > > Best wishes > Thomas > > Am Son, 2003-11-23 um 18.32 schrieb Michael Stitt: > > > On Saturday my wife and I wandered into a Turkish music shop here in oz to buy an ud CD. I asked the Turkish born shop keeper for the best solo ud player of Turkey and he gave me a recording of Ergin Kizilay playing solo ud music. I don't know whether he is `the best' ud player of Turkey - but the performance and recording quality is fantastic -with the musical composition characterised by a Spanish tinge but in reality totally Arabic. > > > > > > > > But that was not the interesting part. On the back of the CD it shows the instrument and yes it has frets! I told my Lebanonese wife that this is unusual and her reply was `what do you mean unusual.all uds HAVE frets' I informed this was not the case and it seems that this generialisation does appear to be wrong. > > > > > > > > On my newly created ud page I have included a photograph of a ud player playing a unfretted instrument. It's a bit dark and probably not clear enough from the original to see a non-fretted instrument. The point IS not all uds are fretted. Here is the picture: > > > > > > > > http://bachplucked.com/ud/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Michael. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > > -- > > -- > Thomas Schall > Niederhofheimer Weg 3 > D-65843 Sulzbach > 06196/74519 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.lautenist.de / www.tslaute.de/weiss > > --
