Sorry Roman again you are wrong, Bonsai is not an ethnic group within a group of trees, Bonsai is a method where by any tree from any back ground can be grown as a bonsai. Bonsai means tree in a pot, loosely translated. I have been growing bonsai for nearly fifty years and some of that as a semi-professional.
Back to the issue of Jewish as it related to the Holocaust, Jewish was and is a race, or ethnic group if you prefer. As far as the Third Riche was concerned religion or philosophy had nothing to do with how "The Jews" were dealt with. It did not matter if they could trace their lineage back hundreds of years as Germans, it did not matter that many of them were war veterans of WWI as German soldiers, it did not matter if they were Atheists, Christian, followers of Islam or Judaism, as far as Hitler was concerned it was all about race and if they belonged to the Jewish race they went to the concentration camps for "The Final Solution" as they called it. In short this was Genocide, government sponsored genocide. Vance Wood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Vance Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "lute list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:46 PM Subject: Re: State of Lutenet (was Size of the lute world) > > I AM NOT THE ONE WHO KEEPS ASKING ME THE QUESTIONS. I don't care if MT is a > > Druid. However he used the term Jewish after the discussion where he used > > the term Nazi. He tossed out the Jewish family ties as a defense to his > > calling MO a Nazi, in much the same way a racist, in defense of his or her > > racism, will say that some of their best friends are this that or another. > > JEWISH IS A RACE, Judaism is a religion. I am dumb struck that you do not > > understand that. > > > > During the Holocaust The Jews were persecuted because of their race not > > their religion. Hitler was interested in eliminating the Jewish race not the > > religion. It is a know fact that many of them converted to Christianity > > but that did not keep them out of the concentration camps, if their > > genealogies showed that they had Jewish blood in their backgrounds off to > > the camps they went. It amazes me that there are a few who have responded > > to this dreary posting who don't understand that. I have always been of the > > opinion that this group was considered highly educated, I guess I am wrong > > on that point. > VW, you are not wrong, but not right either, mistaking an ethnic group for a > whole race. > To make it clearer for you: Bonsai is an ethnic group within a race of > trees. Like pygmies among normal sized africans. > Or to actually make it RELEVANT: Mandora is an ethnos within the testudinal > race. > RT > > ______________ > Roman M. Turovsky > http://turovsky.org > http://polyhymnion.org > > > >
