Are we sure that this is not just a quest for some to find historical
evidence to support their tendency to be as nasty to everyone as is
possible?

Also I have read that one of the Gaultiers was involved in a murder.  It
seems that the "brothers" were a wild bunch.

Vance Wood.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Rastall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Herbert Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: Acrimony in pop music.


> On Tuesday, April 6, 2004, at 06:59 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
>
> >> Is this a modern phenomenon?
> > Yes.
>
> It absolutely is not.  There are plenty of stories about the classical
> masters.  Mozart was a prize wise-ass;  Beethoven had his moments of
> driving away his friends and supporters;  Handel once threatened to
> throw a soprano through a window (one account has it that he actually
> tried to do it).  Gesualdo murdered his wife's lover;  one of the
> Gaultiers was stupid enough to bad-mouth the English king, and was
> taken to the Tower for a time.  Etc., etc.  Do you think everybody was
> oh-so very nice to each other at some unspecified time of the past, and
> that the only words spoken in anger, arrogance, paranoia, whatever,
> were spoken in the 20th century?  Come on, Roman, that's silly.
>
> >> Is it a phenomenon at all?
> > Yes. Pop (unlike classical) is usually based on collective effort.
>
> Your curt replies are given without due thought.  Classical music not a
> collective effort?  Of course it is!  What good is a composer without
> the means to realize his music?  There are horror stories about
> soloists and conductors, as well as composers, that would fill volumes.
>
> DR
>
>


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