Hi Stewart, your archives are nearly as good as those of the KGB and CIA together :-)
-----Message d'origine----- De : Stewart McCoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoy� : mercredi 9 juin 2004 15:48 � : Lute Net Objet : Lute Society was Re: N*geria Scams Dear Arthur, I have done a quick search through my computer archives, and the only references I can find to the "Lute Society of Great Britain" are these: 1) Me in a message to this list on 11th July 2000: "I wrote something similar to what I have to say here for the News Magazine of the Lute Society of Great Britain, but I cannot put my hands on the relevant issue." 2) Stuart Mayes in a message sent to this list by Roman Turovsky on 18th September 2001: "As a long-standing member of the Lute Society of Great Britain, I have long been fascinated with the life and works of the English Lute composer/performer John Danyel (1564-1626), brother of Samuel of 'Delia' fame." 3) Monica Hall writing to the Spanish Lute List ("Vihuelista") on 3rd May 2000, when she wrote: "Soy miembro de la 'Lute Society of Great Britain' ." 4) Chris Goodwin's Lute Society message dated 7th January 2004 about the Nigerian scam. After the information on the scam there is mention of the "Lute Society of Great Britain" in connection with concerts to be given by Ben Salfield. My guess is that you read about the "Lute Society of Great Britain" in this message from Chris Goodwin, because we have been discussing recently what Chris had to say about the Nigerian scam. (This would make the title of this thread more appropriate than perhaps you had imagined. :-) ) It makes sense to refer to the Lute Society as British, if one is mentioning it alongside other lute societies. That's probably why I used the phrase back in 2000, to avoid confusion with the American Lute Society. I agree with you that the Lute Society set up by Diana Poulton and Ian Harwood in the 1950s was the first lute society, and was created for everone in the world, no matter which country they happen to come from. Like you I prefer to save the phrase "The Lute Society" for the British lute society. There was some confusion a while ago, when John Buckman used the phrase "Lute Society" for his lute website, but I can't remember how this was resolved. At least one subscriber to this list refers to the list as the "lute society", which could be misleading. I prefer "Lute Net" or "Lute List". There is a parallel situation with the Viola da Gamba Society, which was started 1948. For many years they have referred to themselves as "The Viola da Gamba Society of Great Britain". At least that's what you will see on the front of their Newsletter and in their "Sup Pubs" (music publications). They describe their journal, _Chelys_, as "The Journal of the Viola da Gamba Society" [no "Great Britain"]. Their website doesn't mention "Great Britain" either. I don't suppose these things matter too much. The main thing is to be clear about who is who. All the best, Stewart. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "LUTE NET" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 1:30 AM Subject: Lute Society was Re: N*geria Scams > Yes, I saw the designation "Lute Society of Great Britiain" from someone on > this list, and thought the Society had altered its name. I can't remember > who it was, but it was someone I thought would be in a position to know. > > When I wrote to Chris, I asked. He said there had been no change. I too > see no reason to change, since the Lute Society was the first on the scene > and surely has always intended to serve the whole lute world. And the > officers and administrator have been doing a commendable job for all of us. > And back in the 1950s, who would have thought there would be so many > lutenists that national societies would be necessary. > > The most localized society is surely the Dutch Lute Society. Nearly 100% > of the some 200 members live in Holland. The last time I checked, sveral > years ago, only 10 persons lived outside of Holland. Could that mean that > the Netherlands has more lutenists per square mile than any other country > in the Western World?<g> > > arthur. > =======Simon said====================== > Just a small correction to something Arthur said: > > "The message was a genuine warning from Chris Goodwin (lutesocol.com), > administrator of the Lute Society of Great Britain (as they now call > themselves)." > > In fact the Lute Society based in the UK, of which Chris Goodwin is > secretary, is called just that: the Lute Society, plain and simple, and has > no plans to change the name. In fact it is especially appropriate since, > as Chris tells me, more than 50% of members live overseas. > > Simon Lambert > Oxford, England > <> > >
