Dear Mathias,

Presumably the 2nd finger for g1 at the start of bar 25 is indicated
in the source. If so, and the 1st finger (barr�) plays f5, all you
have left is the 3rd and 4th finger to choose from. The 4th finger
is unrealistic (too short to reach across the fingerboard), so it
has to be the 3rd finger for the appoggiatura at g5 (on f5) in bar
25.

It might be tempting to try using the 3rd finger for g1, in which
case you can ornament f5 with the 2nd finger, as you did in the
previous bar. The disadvantage of this is that you cannot keep g1
ringing on for long, because you soon have to stretch along the
fingerboard for i3.

At least, that's what I thought before trying it out on a lute. Now
that I've tried it out, I am convinced that using the 2nd finger for
g1 and the 3rd finger for g5 works best. There is more torque for
the ornament with the 3rd finger on g5, and, apart from the brief
excursion of the 3rd finger across the fingerboard, the left hand
stays correctly in position - one finger per fret. Using the 3rd
finger for g1 puts the hand out of position, making it harder to
hold down the barr�.

My conclusion is that the appoggiatura in bar 25 really does need to
be played with the ring finger, odd though it may appear.

All the best,

Stewart.


----- Original Message -----
From: ""Mathias R�sel"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lutelist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 7:02 PM
Subject: fingering


> Mouton, Premier livre, p. 58-9 (double de retour du Depit), bars
24-5,
> reads
>
>   |\               |\
>   |                |
>
> -f-------h-------|--2g------------|
> -----------------|-------f--------|
> -----------------|---- ----i-2g-f-|
> ---f)----------a-|-/- -----.--|-.-|
> ------2g----f)-|-|-|f)------------|
> -------|----|----|-\--- ----------|
>                       a
>
> Has the appogiatura on f5 in bar 25 really-really to be executed
with
> the ringfinger, or are there other solutions?
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Mathias



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