Sweeping generalizations ("Anyone's notion of vihuela
is legitimate, regardless of the fact that it is
based on wishful thinking, given the "profusion" of
tangible vihuela evidence") based on the ignorance of
the subject ("murder that left no corpse (nor a
painting thereof") behind") are rather poor
credentials.
Besides the corpse (Paris, cit� de la musique, E.0748,
being the most obvious), this particular murder left
behind a most enlightening iconographical trail. I
would suggest that you have a look at: Florence
G�treau, "L'iconographie de la vihuela", in _Aux
origenes de la guitar: la vihuela de mano_, les
cahiers du muse� de la musique 5, Paris: cit� de la
musique, 2004, pp. 41-49, ... that is, unless you
desire to create the category "wishful painting".
Regarding what the non existing corpses can teach us,
you could have a look at the article by St�phane
Vaiedelich, in the same publication, "Vers une
organologie scientifique et prospective: l'example des
vihuelas parisiennes", pp 74-82 of the same
publication, or the articles by Joel Dugot and Carlos
Gonzalez on the Jacquemart-Andre and E.0748
instruments(pp. 50-61 and 6273 respectively). Besides
a number of other interesting articles by solid
researchers in this same publication (who, it will
realized, are not dealing at all with wishful
thinking), there is also my own artice, pp. 16-28,
"L'organologie de la vihuela". Don't bother to read
it, just look at the nice pictures.
--- Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi�:
> I wasn't talking about circumstantial evidence.
> Solving a murder that left
> no corpse (nor a painting thereof) behind is an
> ungrateful thing.
> RT
> ______________
> Roman M. Turovsky
> http://polyhymnion.org/swv
>
> > Are you suggesting that my research and
> conclusions
> > about the vihuela are based on wishful thinking?
> > Not nice ... not nice
> > Antonio
> >
> > --- Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> escribi??> >>>> Isn't the guitar
> > simply "a vihuela missing 1st
> >>>> and
> >>>>>> 6th courses" in some
> >>>>>> vihuelist's words?
> >>>>>> RT
> >>>>>> ______________
> >>>>>> Roman M. Turovsky
> >>>>>> http://polyhymnion.org/swv
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> No, that is a simplistic and literal
> >>>> interpretation of
> >>>>> a discussion about tuning and stringing. What
> >>>> Bermudo
> >>>>> (who was not a vihuelist) meant is that the
> >> tuning
> >>>> of
> >>>>> the guitar has the same intervals as the four
> >>>> inner
> >>>>> courses of the vihuela.
> >>>> I am not convinced. It seems to me that
> chitarra
> >>>> alla spagnola is simply a
> >>>> vihuela/viola-da-mano simplified for
> proletarian
> >>>> usage (and chitarra
> >>>> all'italiana a lute simplified for proletarian
> >>>> usage).
> >>>> RT
> >>> Suit yourself,
> >>> best wishes
> >>> Antonio
> >> We are all suiting ourselves. Anyone's notion of
> >> vihuela is legitimate,
> >> regardless of the fact that it is based on
> wishful
> >> thinking, given the
> >> "profusion" of tangible vihuela evidence. Some of
> >> this wishful thinking is
> >> exceptionally good when translated into lutherie,
> >> Cezar Mateus' for example.
> >> I haven't heard Sasha Batov's vihuelas yet, but I
> am
> >> looking forward to a
> >> possibility.
> >> In short, "vihuela" is fair game, like in an old
> >> joke about an Armenian and
> >> his purple horse. Asked how come his horse was
> >> purple, the Armenian
> >> answered: "It is mine, and I paint it any color I
> >> choose."
> >> RT
> >>
> >>
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