Dear Chris & All,

It's a slightly different use of the computer to Stephen's,
but I often use the midi output from Stringwalker or Fronimo
to play along with to practice duets and song accompaniments. 
The sound is of course mechanically precise, much like using
a metronome except with music attached, but given the lone
player's tendency to veer off strict time that's not a bad thing. 
It's particularly useful with pieces like some of the Dowland
songs that have long bars that are difficult to count. And for
treble & ground duets you don't have to get someone to play
the ground for you. Once I have the strict rhythms in my
memory and fingers I can leave the computer and get on with
thinking about how I want to perform the music.

Best wishes,

Denys


----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Practice Habits


> I would find this use of a computer terribly unhelpful
> for myself.  I can see how this could be helpful in
> working out the compositional structure of a piece,
> however listening to it in order to learn about how a
> pieces goes would really block my personal
> interpretation in performance.  You're getting the
> computer's rendition of the piece, and I would think
> listening to that sterile version so many times would
> embed it into your subconcious conception of how it
> should go.  I try to avoid listening to any recording
> of a piece I'm learning until my own conception has
> become manifest to some degree.  (Only at that point
> do I return to professional recordings in order to
> discourage myself, or force me to realize how much
> work I still have to go!)
> 
> This should really even happen apart from the
> mechanics of playing - if you can sing the piece
> (aurally or mentally) both away from the instrument
> and while playing, it makes usually makes it a lot
> easier to overcome technical problems.  This is
> because you now have a musical reason to manifest
> these or those notes a certain meaningful way rather
> than simply thinking of them as awkward technical
> turns.  Ideally, all of the work you put in on
> exercises, excised excerpts of pieces, etc., are only
> part of the practice routine in order to teach your
> fingers the freedom to "sing" what you have in your
> head.  Instead of focusing on "Ok... first finger,
> third finger, index finger on the 4th string... now
> the fast bit" you get to the point of the piece as a
> musical whole.  Tough work, this.  - But very
> rewarding in the end!
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Vance Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > That's an interesting gambit to take.  I like it but
> > don't have the
> > resources to pull it off, wish I did it would make
> > figuring out the voicing
> > a lot easier and clearly identifying the errors in
> > the tablature if any.
> > 
> > Vance Wood.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "The Other" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Vance Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "lute list"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: Practice Habits
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:33:34 -0700, Vance Wood
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > There has not been a great deal of response on the
> > subject of practice.
> > > This
> > > leads me to believe that people are uninterested
> > or are doing what I did
> > > for
> > > many years, specifically, playing the same piece
> > over and over till I
> > > thought I got it right----which was seldom, if the
> > truth be known.
> > 
> > I like to work up the piece on the computer using
> > Harmony Assistant from
> > Myriad Software  (www.myriad-online.com)
> > 
> > In conjunction with their Virtual Singer software
> > version that comes with
> > Harmony Assistant, you can work up the piece with
> > vocals and instruments.
> > Then I record the output to audio cassette tape
> > (record it multiple times
> > to fill up an entire side of 60 minute audio tape.) 
> > Finally, I go for a
> > long walk and listen to the tape, hearing the
> > instrumental and vocal parts
> > over and over, letting it soak into the brain.
> > 
> > It's easier for me to sing or play a piece when it's
> > already in my
> > subconscious.
> > 
> > "The Other" Stephen Stubbs.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> 
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