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From: "Roger E. Blumberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "LUTE-LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:35 AM
Subject: OT -- medieval Spanish Illuminated MS plates


> http://www.arteguias.com/artesaniamedieval.htm
>
> if you click the little info icons you'll get to the respective plates, in
> color, very pretty -- musical instruments or not.
>
> Most of us have probably seen the Cantigas plates, but little else.
>
> (about as close to sunday morning worship as I'm gonna get ;')
>
> Roger


so here's an odd connection. It occured to me that those long curved support
poles seeming to prop up the front ends of  the bass cytharas seen in the
9th century Psalters might be doubling as extra resonator pipes, even those
round doughnut thingys at the butt of most of those instruments might be a
"trumpet" port -- there's no sound holes on the faces of any of those
instruments.
http://www.thecipher.com/seek/CarolingianPsalter-detail2.jpg
http://www.thecipher.com/seek/FrenchPsalterCythara_detail1.jpg

So I just found this plate at the above site and low and behold it _is_ an
Alpine Trumpet!
http://www.arteguias.com/artesaniamedieval/g-angelsanisidoro.jpg

and this is not really so far fetched given the "Stroh-viols" of the early
1900's
http://www.thecipher.com/stroh-cello.jpg

those long curved-ended pole things appear in virtually every single image
of the Carolingian Psalter instruments, and in that other French one too,
and if it even looks like many of the instruments in the Super Apocalypsum
have rear round butt-port sound holes.

so either every single one of those instrument players is moon-lighting as a
bass horn player and keeping it tucked under his arm pit as he plays his
string-bass, or those might just be trumpet resonators.

who knows, just a though.

Roger



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