> the implication of smaller holes in the bridge would be either the old
> lutenists used a higher tension than we do

Actually, it's the other way round. I could quote Mersenne or Galilei, but 
it is easier to imagine it on your own lute:

Try tuning a 0.40mm gut string to a high g' on a renaissance lute of 60cm. 
It will almost break, but if lucky, you can use it for one or two weeks.
Try tuning a 2.00mm gut string to a high g' on a renaissance lute of 60cm. 
Chances are your string or lute will break because of the high tension.

Or to put it differently:

Try tuning a 2.00mm gut string to a low D on a renaissance lute of 60cm. It 
will be dull, but work.
Try tuning a 0.40mm gut string to a low D on a renaissance lute of 60cm. 
Chances are you won't like it because of the low tension.

So, thick string = high tension. Thin string = low tension.

I wrote a little something on string tensions including Mersenne on my web 
site: Http://home.planet.nl/~d.v.ooijen/david/

David


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Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 9:26 AM
Subject: Antwort: RE: Gutsy stories


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> Dear Rob
>
> the implication of smaller holes in the bridge would be either the old
> lutenists used a higher tension than we do or the strings they used would
> be made of a different material. I've read somewhere in an article 
> guessing
> the gut strings would be different from our modern times gut strings
> (assuming environmental influences). I think this is somehow plausible but
> still guesswork. Or is there evidence for this?
> So I would think they used higher tension.
>
> Best wishes
> Thomas
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> "Rob MacKillop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> am 30.01.2005 09:20:54
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> An:    "'Lute net'" <[email protected]>
> Kopie:
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> Thema: RE: Gutsy stories
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> A luthier once told me that many of the original bridge string holes are
> too
> small for the diameters we choose for 'modern' gut. Is this true, and if 
> so
> what are the implications?
>
> Also, many luthiers drill bridge holes on their instruments for wound
> synthetic strings, and when you decide to experiment with gut, you too 
> will
> find that the holes are too narrow. On two occasions I have had to have 
> the
> holes widened.
>
> There is some connection between these two paragraphs...
>
> Rob
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edward Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 January 2005 20:20
> To: Michael Thames; LGS-Europe; Lute net; Edward Martin
> Subject: Re: Gutsy stories
>
> No argument here.  The extended bass length is precisely for that
> purpose.......with the longer basses, the required strings will 
> necessarily
>
> require a smaller string diameter.  I am uncertain if it gives more volume
> and sustain, but for sure, a better clarity of pitch and sound.  These
> instruments were designed for gut strings.
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