Thank you for your thoughts on this. I was thinking of these for my 6 and 7 course lutes. Maybe I'd better get just one gimped for the 7 course and Pistoys for the 5 & 6 for both lutes.
BTW, I retune between D & F fairly often on the 7 course. It hasn't been a problem with the overspun. Just wondering. Thanks >Yes, gimped are expensive. But, they are nice strings. They are true. > >I caution you to order them starting at the 7th course, not any >higher than the 6th. The reason for this is when fingering them >(left had) with an octave, the intonation often is a bit off. This >is not because of trueness, but due the stiffness with the wire. >This particular wire woven into the gut makes the string more rigid, >and when vibrating, it is as though the string is shorter, because >it does not quite vibrate for the entire length of the string. > >So, for basses deeper than the 6th course, they are fantastic, as >they are true, and fingering the 7th course & lower is infrequent >enough that intonation is not a problem. > >No, they are not false, as loaded strings are. They agree perfectly >with plain gut octaves, in the open string. That is why I always >start with the 7th course when using gimped. Gor the 6th and 5th >course, Pistoys work, as they agree perfectly with their ocataves. > >Incidentally, I do not know how they would work with nylgut octaves. >When one mixes materials within a course, the results are not always >the best. > >ed > > > > > >At 07:48 PM 4/18/2005 +0900, Ed Durbrow wrote: >>Ed and Eric, >>I know the gimped strings sound great. I heard one on Kenneth's lute. >>Have you paired these gimped strings with an octave? Any problems >>with intonation? I'd mostlikely pair it with a Nylgut octave. I was >>just at Dan's site and about to order some gimped strings, but unless >>I'm mistaken, these are very expensive. I'd be getting about 5 or 6 >>strings (for two lutes). This is a couple hundred dollars. I'm very >>concerned about the trueness. I found the loaded gut strings were >>useless when paired with an octave string. They would be in tune at >>the open position and out of tune at the third fret. I would pair it >>with a Nylgut octave. Do you think that would create problems? For >>example, would they go in opposite directions if the climate changed? >>I don't want to make an expensive mistake. >>TIA >> >>>As I said before, I use Dan Larson's gimped strings for mandolino and >>>archlute bases... and they seem to be very long-lived indeed. I >>>personally >>>like these strings very much. And yes, they are as you describe them. On >>>Dan's earlier gimped strings the wire was often detectable on the >>>surface of >>>the string. With his current version, you only feel the smooth gut >>>surface. These strings are also very pretty to look at since you can see >>>the spiral of wire through the gut. >>> >>>Best, >>> >>>Eric >>> >>>Craig Allen wrote: >>> >>>>Ed wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Wound 6th courses do not last as long as gut strings, believe me. I think >>>>>it is because in a wound string, you have 2 moving parts.... the metal >>>>>winding, and then the floss core. They are actually moving >>>>>parts, where in >>>>>a gut string, the gut fibers are homogeneously bound. Gut basses last >>>>>(seemingly) forever. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>Have you had any experience with the gimped string? If I recall >>>>this is a gut string with a single wire wrapped in a longish >>>>spiral. I have the same problem Michael does with the wound >>>>strings, particularly on the fifth course, wearing out right around >>>>the third fret. >>>> >>>>As a side note, has anyone experimented with making a gimped nylon, >>>>nylgut or carbon fiber bass string? >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Craig >>>> >>>> >>>>___________________________________________________________ >>>>$0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer >>>>10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. >>>>Signup at www.doteasy.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>To get on or off this list see list information at >>>>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >>-- >>Ed Durbrow >>Saitama, Japan >>http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ > > > >Edward Martin >2817 East 2nd Street >Duluth, Minnesota 55812 >e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >voice: (218) 728-1202 -- Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
