Dear Ed, I'm afraid that transcription misses one of the points of Neusidler's tablature (which Arthur referred to in his mailing) - when notes higher than the fifth fret are indicated the alphabet is started again with a line placed above the cipher to indicate the higher position. These are present in the original, so the tune starts on the 7th fret, not the second. It's easy to miss because the lines placed over the letter look almost like a continuous line below the rhythm flags. So Michael Morrow's transcription is correct.
Tricky stuff German tablature...... Best wishes, Denys ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Durbrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 4:58 PM Subject: Re: Judentanz Neusidler etc. > So are there 2 versions of the Juden Tantz by Neusidler? The one at > the site Thomas refers to works fine with the given tuning. It > doesn't go higher than fret 4.The transcription in the 1960 Lute > Journal also works fine and gives the same tuning, but the melody is > up a fourth, the highest note at the 9th fret. It even gives a French > tab transcription. From different books or the same book? > cheers, > > >> On 6/4/05, Thomas Schall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> If you can read german tablature > >>> try http://aris.ss.uci.edu/rgarfias/jtanz/jtanz.html > >>> There is a facsimile of the piece > > > > On Jun 5, 2005, at 8:01 PM, Denys Stephens wrote: > > > Dear All, > > I am sure Arthur will remember this, but it may be of interest to > > others that that this inaccuracy in the tuning instructions for the > > "Judentanz" > > led to one of the great faux pas of lute musicology. Many years ago > > the > > eminent musicologist Willi Apel took the instructions at face value > > and > > wrote: > > > > "Der Judentanz (the dance of the Jews" .... represents one of the > > earliest > > examples, if not the earliest, of satire in music ...... the satirical > > character is > > expressed by cacophonous dissonances ...... it is written in a > > strikingly > > modern > > idiom of bi-tonality such as rarely occurs before the advent of the > > twentieth century." > > > > The late Michael Morrow wrote an article entitled "Ayre on the F sharp > > string" which was > > published in the Lute Society Journal of 1960 which corrected the > > misunderstanding. > > The quote above is from that article. > > Ed Durbrow > Saitama, Japan > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 267.4.1 - Release Date: 02/06/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 267.4.1 - Release Date: 02/06/2005
