This is an interesting case, but not completely relevant to the early music 
we are discussing on this list. From what I have read the case had a lot to 
do with the money Hyperion made selling the CDs and didn't pay to Dr. 
Sawkins, who reconstruction the music and made a playable edition. I don't 
think Dowland and Weiss had the same royalty driven concept of ownership.
Nancy Carlin

>  a propos arrangements, you might be interested to look at the recent court
>case between Hyperion Records (UK) and Dr Sawkins concerning the ownership of
>musical copyright of a performing edition of Lalande, whose music is out of
>copyright. The UK Law lords agreed with Dr Sawkins, on appeal, that work
>involved in creating an arrangement can be sufficient to consider it an
>'original' piece of work. Hyperion's URL is www.Hyperion.co.uk but the full
>transcript of the judgement is also available.
>regards
>Charles
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jon Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 21 July 2005 16:14
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Roman Turovsky
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Byrd
>
>
>RT,
>
>I both agree and disagree, which makes me indecisive on the face of it.
>Nothing is original, and everything is. I just bought the Bunting book
>facsimile (1840) that transcribes, and arranges for piano forte, the harp
>music of Ireland - "in order to preserve it". I have some of the same pieces
>from 1625 as lute tab from other originals. What is an arrangement, and what
>is a song? For once I am in agreement with you. Scarlatti and Bach did
>original work in reworking (arranging) earlier works. But if I take the
>Bunting piano arrangements and return them to harp am I original? I don't
>think so, but it is a puzzlement.
>
>I think we need new words, actually not new words but a different sense of
>the old words in context. I really enjoy playing the Sarmantica XVI that you
>lured me to by speaking of parallel fifths (not many in there, but it got me
>there) as well as other Sarmanticas.
>
>So now let us have a test of words, and this isn't directed only to you, it
>is to the list. I think we agree on arrangements as originals.
>
>I take the tab notation of Sarmantica XVI and put it into staff notation for
>harp (or piano, or whatever). I have transcibed it for another medium, but
>I've done nothing original. Now I take the voices in the lute piece and
>separate them a bit, using the fact that the harpist can play more voices
>than the lutenist can, I'm still not original, but I am arranging the same
>piece for a different instrument. Yet the arrangement doesn't qualify as an
>original. Now I include the lute piece into an orchestral score as a theme
>across the instruments - now I'm original. What is original and what is
>derivative in music is a difficult decision. I once had a project to put
>A.E. Housman to music, but only wrote one melody (for Moonlit Sheep). I came
>up with a unique chord progression that made my melody perfect, then found
>the same chord progression in the Theme from Exodus (the movie) which was
>written later. There are only so many ways you can use notes in a melody,
>and only so many chord progressions - but there are an infinite number of
>ways to make a song.
>
>Therein lies the problem, and the solution. If the sense of the music is the
>same then it is a transcription (or translation). If the sense is similar,
>but enhanced with additional instruments then it is an arrangement. If the
>sense changes then it is original. On the lute the inversions of chords
>aren't easily available, unless one has the fingers of "rubberman". But on
>the harp the inversions are easy. So if I change the inversion of the chord
>the other guy wrote for the piece am I arranging, or just making easy
>fingering for the same piece. I don't know, and I don't really want to know.
>
>Best, Jon
>
>
>
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